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Old 04-16-2020, 12:52 AM   #1
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brz vs gt86?

Is there any real difference between the two besides dealing with a subaru vs a toyota dealership? would be a new 2019 or 2020.
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:56 AM   #2
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Not really. Only difference I can think is Subaru have PP option vs Toyota don't. Toyota only have Brembo in TRD86.

If Brembo wasn’t something you care then you’re literally choosing for cosmetic things. Which front you like more.
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The two can offer slightly different packages. Brz usually can be had with brembos and different (not sure if forged) wheels. The 86 can come with lowering springs and a trd catback/axleback exhaust. I think tires are different too. Fog lights and things like that are a consideration too. Sorry to be vague, but depending on your level of how much you care, you can look into what springs and dampers come on the package your looking at etc
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Do your friends drive Toyota or Subaru.
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cool thanks. yea looking around doesnt seem like there's really much functional difference. love the hakone color but not so much the fangs, and it seems like subaru's have a bit better deals. not planning on modding or anything, just for casual fun driving around some local backwoods. hoping there will be really good deals once the refresh arrives.
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Old 04-16-2020, 03:15 AM   #7
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Depending on your region there may be a pretty significant price difference, in Canada, you are paying way more for a stock 86 GT trim as it does not come with brembos or sach dampers and costs more than a BRZ ts.

I believe in the states the pricing is pretty close as the 86 GT + trd handling package will bring the specs pretty close to the ts along with the price.

If price is similar it's basically aesthetics of the front bumper and that emblem you want on your car. Personally i wished the toyota kept the FRS front as I believe it looked the best compared to the refresh and the BRZ.

There may also be a slight advantage going with subaru if you were to ever need engine servicing as the dealership mechanics at subaru are way more familiar with boxer engines vs Toyota mechanics since the 86 is the only boxer engine car in Toyota's lineup and not a high volume seller at that (meaning their mechanics won't have as much experience working on them as they are rarely seen)
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The original cars were set-up differently, the GT86 being more tail happy...
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Either go by price or since you are not going to mod, pick the one that you think looks the best.
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Both Items you speak of are Made In The Same Factory by the same workers.


Subaru has removed their cheapo model for 2020.


Best to buy a 2019 if you want cheap in that brand.


If you want the cheapest in a 2020 must buy Toyota.


If you wait for the second generation in about 2021 you'll have to put up with more of that 'safety' crap than the current models.


Personal opinion : They can shove all that newest safety crap...I want to actually drive a car with me in charge.

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If you wait for the 2021 version you could be waiting a long, long time!


If ever.
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I can confidently say that the Toyota offering is better. Just like how Tabasco sauce is better on burgers than ketchup.

To be real though, it comes down to this- would you rather tell people you have a Subaru sports car, or a Toyota sports car?
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Whatever way you want to go you better make up your mind FAST or you will take what you can get.
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Whatever way you want to go you better make up your mind FAST or you will take what you can get.
I thought sales were in the toilet? I was thinking about getting a 1st Gen when the 2nd gen is being released hopefully at a firesale price. If nothing available oh well I guess. I just wish Toyota didn't change the grill shape.
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