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Top Gear still hates Tesla
Top Gear has never been a fan of green cars, and why should they? They are a performance car show, but this hasn't stopped them from getting the opportunity to show their disdain for econoboxes.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIryzmF-VM[/ame] Then they had an opportunity to review the Tesla Roadster, and well, they had a show to run and a story to tell that fit their tastes and talking points, so they lied a bit to make the EV look like a bad car. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc_A34G6UAw[/ame] Moving the timeline forward, they did have a few other Teslas on the show for review, but then Porsche came out with the Taycan, and they needed to support the right brand, so they couldn't help but fib a little, or lie. I don't really know. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F28i1D1OJ5o[/ame] But now it seems like they have been caught. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...results-video/ Quote:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE9eJtG8jaU[/ame] I get that Top Gear is entertainment, yet I've always assumed that they are like most motor journalists, in that, when comparing cars, they provide ACTUAL performance data then they provide subjective comparisons. At this point, I wouldn't trust them to provide anything factual.
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doubt the majority of people who buy Teslas bother listening to Jeremy and Top Gear...they are all too busy sleeping at the wheel..
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Would you believe your own eyes then (car ran 10.54 at 126)? [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeT2lEAaSQo[/ame]
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OK so the posted numbers are suspect, but did or didn't the race end up with the Taycan ahead? That's all that really matters in a drag race.
The speculation about them not using launch mode in the Tesla would be the bigger point to me. Also, there was some other articles that talked about how these cars would not have been drag raced at all had they been ICE since they are not the same type of car. Then again, Top Gear drag races across types all the time. The S family sedan is fast enough to keep up with the sports car. That's pretty cool. Still wouldn't want one as exemplified by the whole "No, I want my Mommy" button and the warpspeed graphics. Sorry, it would make me feel like I've installed one of those Walmart radios with 75 running colors on every screen. I outgrew that a LONG time ago.
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I think there is still an undercurrent of dislike towards tesla or more specifically Elon musk. Call it achievement envy. Those guys are lucky to be selling their show in a market that still considers car ownership a privilege.
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If you want to bring up a valid argument:
Point out the fact that the base Taycan starts at about $50,000 more (Conveniently 50% more) than a Model S performance. Point out that despite the price difference, the Taycan also has a slightly shorter range. Do not claim that a car show hates green cars when complaining about a comparison between two electric vehicles. One of them literally green. Do not point out an issue between a former presenter of the car show and the owner of Tesla as proof of bias on behalf of the current cast and producers. Do not use a long winded explanation from a drag racing expert to rant about a difference in a quarter mile time of 0.39 seconds from non-professional drivers. Realize that you could probably drag race these two cars 100 times and not have a consistent winner. A lot of science goes into drag racing, but drag racing isn't an exact science. When the difference is that small, countless variables could affect it. From the condition of tarmac to the driver's reaction time. The point that should be taken away from this is that both cars are very, very fast. |
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Yea, I saw this in one of the comments when I first read the article, except that said (paraphrasing), "bring up the point you could have the S, and a Model 3, with $20,000 to spare".
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The taycan is beautiful but was designed for a smaller market. Tesla is a sedan. Probably a lot nimbler than jeremy clarkson trying to squeeze through an amusement park turnstile though.
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All the people I've known who drove Teslas were insufferable narcissists.
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I better go get one then.!
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The guy is a delusional egomaniac. I'm glad he's throwing his money into neat things but realistically I firmly believe his endeavors would be MORE successful if he took his fat mouth off twitter took two BIG steps back away from the day to day operations of Tesla, SpaceX and Solar City.
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As the article and guy pointed out, the Tesla P100D in ludicrous mode and in launch control will do a 10.6, so the fact that it ran an 11.08 is suspect. It is possible the car was made to lose, and if it did then they could have quoted those times, but they used times from an older model. It could be that the Taycan’s numbers are also made up, as was the whole race, and they pulled some times off the internet after getting the shots they wanted.
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