Track mode vs. VSC sport - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

alex87f · 10-30-2018, 08:58 AM

Good day everybody,

Is there a difference between the track mode on the phase 2 twins and the VSC sport mode of the phase 1 cars?

It seems Toyota used the "new" track mode as a selling point of the car in some of the sales literature, but I can't find specifics regarding what it does, and in which way it differs from the VSC sport mode phase 1 cars already had.

Alex

PatSciFRS · 10-30-2018, 09:28 AM

As far as I can tell all these cars have VSC off and Trac off modes. If you turn off vehicle stability control, you still have traction control. But when you hit the VSC/Trac button you are supposed to be on your own.

Tcoat · 10-30-2018, 09:35 AM

Track mode combines some of the aspects of the old VSC in what is shut off by the button. You get a little more control of the vehicle with one push.

RToyo86 · 10-30-2018, 09:44 AM

Track mode is more leinent at allowing slip than the old VSC sport.

There is a thread with some detailed posts here
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111175

alex87f · 10-30-2018, 11:32 AM

OK so it's basically the same, with higher thresholds and softer corrections.

The only other change being that the all off mode now disables brake LSD on manual cars (which, based on what I read, isn't a good thing).

dhuang · 10-30-2018, 12:53 PM

I love 'Track mode' on my Series.Yellow, I couldn't stand 'VSC sport' on my '13 -- it intervened too early. You can drift with track mode and it will intervene when it knows you've royally screwed up.

Tcoat · 10-30-2018, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhuang

I love 'Track mode' on my Series.Yellow, I couldn't stand 'VSC sport' on my '13 -- it intervened too early. You can drift with track mode and it will intervene when it knows you've royally screwed up.

Perfect summary!

e_lunatic · 10-30-2018, 05:15 PM

i used the VCS thing once. blows. trac mode only

alex87f · 10-30-2018, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhuang

I love 'Track mode' on my Series.Yellow, I couldn't stand 'VSC sport' on my '13 -- it intervened too early. You can drift with track mode and it will intervene when it knows you've royally screwed up.

That does sound nice indeed, the VSC sport is a little unpredictable in whether or not it decides you're in over your head.

TofuJoe · 10-30-2018, 11:47 PM

What @dhuang said resonates with my experience.

10-30-2018, 08:58 AM	#1
alex87f Meow Join Date: Aug 2017 Drives: GT86 (now sold) Location: France Posts: 546 Thanks: 330 Thanked 461 Times in 244 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Track mode vs. VSC sport Good day everybody, Is there a difference between the track mode on the phase 2 twins and the VSC sport mode of the phase 1 cars? It seems Toyota used the "new" track mode as a selling point of the car in some of the sales literature, but I can't find specifics regarding what it does, and in which way it differs from the VSC sport mode phase 1 cars already had. Alex

10-30-2018, 09:35 AM	#3
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,294 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Track mode combines some of the aspects of the old VSC in what is shut off by the button. You get a little more control of the vehicle with one push. Attached Images __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

10-30-2018, 12:53 PM	#6
dhuang Cannonball Record Guy Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Series.Yellow, 4C, Fit Location: Houston / Atlanta Posts: 493 Thanks: 480 Thanked 429 Times in 223 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I love 'Track mode' on my Series.Yellow, I couldn't stand 'VSC sport' on my '13 -- it intervened too early. You can drift with track mode and it will intervene when it knows you've royally screwed up. __________________ 2017 Series.Yellow 2013 Whiteout VINwiki - Changing Automotive History

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10-30-2018, 09:28 AM	#2
PatSciFRS Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: Scion FRS 10 Series Location: USA Posts: 48 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As far as I can tell all these cars have VSC off and Trac off modes. If you turn off vehicle stability control, you still have traction control. But when you hit the VSC/Trac button you are supposed to be on your own.

10-30-2018, 09:44 AM	#4
RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,384 Thanks: 1,878 Thanked 2,629 Times in 1,285 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Track mode is more leinent at allowing slip than the old VSC sport. There is a thread with some detailed posts here https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111175

10-30-2018, 11:32 AM	#5
alex87f Meow Join Date: Aug 2017 Drives: GT86 (now sold) Location: France Posts: 546 Thanks: 330 Thanked 461 Times in 244 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK so it's basically the same, with higher thresholds and softer corrections. The only other change being that the all off mode now disables brake LSD on manual cars (which, based on what I read, isn't a good thing).

10-30-2018, 11:47 PM	#10
TofuJoe Ohne Titel Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP ISM Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 684 Thanks: 1,141 Thanked 412 Times in 234 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What @dhuang said resonates with my experience.

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