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Old 02-21-2018, 11:00 AM   #1
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HKS 2.2L FA20 short block

In case anyone is interested, JPY 1,800,000 available starting in April 2018.

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Some questions for those of you that are savvy:

1. How much more power would this stock block give? What is the max it would be able to handle?

2. What happens to the car's driving characteristics? Does is still stay a high revving thing? I see the CR is lower

3. Would any tuner be able to work on this if I was to add FI to it, or headers let's say?

Edit: is the price right? JPY to USD converted it's 16K......
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2.1L, 10.5 CR, I bet the target audience is those who want to go FI.
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You can have a bigger better FA built for far less state side.
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You can have a bigger better FA built for far less state side.
You can buy a whole FR-S for less.
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:50 PM   #6
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2.1L, 10.5 CR, I bet the target audience is those who want to go FI.
No 2.2L They use a different kind of rounding system than I was taught.
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While super cool, that is a lot of money!
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No 2.2L They use a different kind of rounding system than I was taught.
displacement is typically rounded up for the purpose of classing in taxes or racing.

In this case, it's just very unfortunate that it's a 2.116 liter displacement.

A slightly less unfortunate case is a Honda S2000 2.2L, which is really 2.154...
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Shortblock includes camshafts?
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Shortblock includes camshafts?
As I understand it, short block is everything up to (out to in our case) the line between the heads and the block, not including accessories. Probably also doesn't include a oil pan.

Edit lol I'm dumb, thought you were asking about what a short block was. I should read more good. I agree, that is odd.
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You can buy a whole FR-S for less.
Of course. The price is MSRP, actual sell price can be much lower depending on what dealer you want to buy from.

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As I understand it, short block is everything up to (out to in our case) the line between the heads and the block, not including accessories. Probably also doesn't include a oil pan.

Edit lol I'm dumb, thought you were asking about what a short block was. I should read more good. I agree, that is odd.
HKS announced the VR38DETT >> 4.3L engine at the same time. JPY 5,000,000 MSRP

The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
This is a long block:

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HKS announced the VR38DETT >> 4.3L engine at the same time. JPY 5,000,000 MSRP

The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
This is a long block:
Looks like someone at HKS made a copy-paste error on the FA20
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The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
Then what do they mean by....

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HKS high duration camshafts ensure the smooth acceleration to high engine speed
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Then what do they mean by....
I'm reading it at face value, nothing in the product specs of the FA20 block say anything about camshafts.

Yes, there's a bullet point above, but I ignore that because it doesn't provide useful info.

Nothing in specs say camshaft.
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