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-   -   HKS 2.2L FA20 short block (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125548)

mav1178 02-21-2018 11:00 AM
HKS 2.2L FA20 short block
 
In case anyone is interested, JPY 1,800,000 available starting in April 2018.

https://i.imgur.com/7U6JUtd.jpg

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 02-21-2018 11:26 AM
Some questions for those of you that are savvy:

1. How much more power would this stock block give? What is the max it would be able to handle?

2. What happens to the car's driving characteristics? Does is still stay a high revving thing? I see the CR is lower

3. Would any tuner be able to work on this if I was to add FI to it, or headers let's say?

Edit: is the price right? JPY to USD converted it's 16K......

Code Monkey 02-21-2018 11:36 AM
2.1L, 10.5 CR, I bet the target audience is those who want to go FI.

PuslarBrrrz 02-21-2018 02:25 PM
You can have a bigger better FA built for far less state side.

strat61caster 02-21-2018 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PuslarBrrrz (Post 3047597)
You can have a bigger better FA built for far less state side.
You can buy a whole FR-S for less.

Grady 02-21-2018 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Code Monkey (Post 3047488)
2.1L, 10.5 CR, I bet the target audience is those who want to go FI.
No 2.2L They use a different kind of rounding system than I was taught.

weederr33 02-21-2018 06:19 PM
While super cool, that is a lot of money!

CSG Mike 02-21-2018 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3047725)
No 2.2L They use a different kind of rounding system than I was taught.
displacement is typically rounded up for the purpose of classing in taxes or racing.

In this case, it's just very unfortunate that it's a 2.116 liter displacement.

A slightly less unfortunate case is a Honda S2000 2.2L, which is really 2.154...

mkivsoopra 02-21-2018 07:08 PM
Shortblock includes camshafts?

Spuds 02-21-2018 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkivsoopra (Post 3047774)
Shortblock includes camshafts?
As I understand it, short block is everything up to (out to in our case) the line between the heads and the block, not including accessories. Probably also doesn't include a oil pan.

Edit lol I'm dumb, thought you were asking about what a short block was. I should read more good. I agree, that is odd.

mav1178 02-21-2018 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PuslarBrrrz (Post 3047597)
You can have a bigger better FA built for far less state side.
Quote:
Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3047618)
You can buy a whole FR-S for less.
Of course. The price is MSRP, actual sell price can be much lower depending on what dealer you want to buy from.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkivsoopra (Post 3047774)
Shortblock includes camshafts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3047830)
As I understand it, short block is everything up to (out to in our case) the line between the heads and the block, not including accessories. Probably also doesn't include a oil pan.

Edit lol I'm dumb, thought you were asking about what a short block was. I should read more good. I agree, that is odd.
HKS announced the VR38DETT >> 4.3L engine at the same time. JPY 5,000,000 MSRP

The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
This is a long block:

https://i.imgur.com/6IedAtZ.jpg

Spuds 02-21-2018 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3047850)

HKS announced the VR38DETT >> 4.3L engine at the same time. JPY 5,000,000 MSRP

The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
This is a long block:
Looks like someone at HKS made a copy-paste error on the FA20

mkivsoopra 02-21-2018 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3047850)
The FA20 is just a short block (i.e. nothing above head gasket).
Then what do they mean by....

Quote:
HKS high duration camshafts ensure the smooth acceleration to high engine speed

mav1178 02-21-2018 11:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3047856)
Looks like someone at HKS made a copy-paste error on the FA20
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkivsoopra (Post 3047857)
Then what do they mean by....
I'm reading it at face value, nothing in the product specs of the FA20 block say anything about camshafts.

Yes, there's a bullet point above, but I ignore that because it doesn't provide useful info.

Nothing in specs say camshaft.


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