I face a dilema - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

doctor_driver · 02-05-2017, 01:34 PM

Edit: I have taken your advice and am not going to go for either of these two cars - ended up finding a good deal on a clean (and already turboed and tuned) FRS on this site and I plan to go through with it. Thanks for all the help.

I am in need of wisdom; I have either the option of

Option 1: FR-S with 34k miles on it for $11k but it was wrecked and written off as a total loss by insurance and apparently rebuilt back in 2015 and is registered under a clean title now. No other information is available on the car besides 2 previous owners saying it was in a fender bender in a parking lot (that caused a total loss?? I'm weary of that). The current owner bought the car without knowledge of the wreck and rebuild back in December.

Option 2:FR-S with 70k miles on it for $9k, motor was rebuilt by the dealer 2k miles ago (owner has paperwork and proof) but it has a big dent in the driver side fender.

The low mileage engine is enticing for me but I have been told too that a rebuilt motor is sometimes close to new as well. What do y'all think is my best option? I'm looking to slowly turn this into a track dedicated car as well.

86geek · 02-05-2017, 01:36 PM

IMHO keep looking unless you're able to fix mechanical stuff down the road. Just my 2 cents!

JD001 · 02-05-2017, 01:49 PM

Why not place an ad on this very forum, WTB a Twin. I'm sure you'll find something more appealing compared to the two that you are considering.

Gil Scott Heron · 02-05-2017, 01:52 PM

If it's to be track dedicated do either the salvage title on beater #1 or the dented fender on beater #2 really matter in the long run?

Th3rdSun · 02-05-2017, 02:02 PM

How is this a dilemma? I wouldn't touch either of those cars with a ten foot pole.

If you have up to 11K to spend on a car,use that as a down payment for something better.Depending on your credit situation,with that much down,you should have pretty low monthly payments on a brand new FR-S,or even one that's used but in much better condition than the two you are looking at.

doctor_driver · 02-05-2017, 02:59 PM

well I have a 2014 Focus ST fully paid off that I daily and autocross with. Wanted to get a fun RWD car for track days and as a project car for the next few years. Not looking for a perfect twin by any means, just something cheap I can drop mods into for track performance but still function as a daily driver when I'm in the mood for it.

Summerwolf · 02-05-2017, 03:06 PM

Probably avoid both and buy a vehicle that wasn't at one time, or isn't currently a pile of poo.

RallySport · 02-05-2017, 03:34 PM

For ~$100 /mo more get a car with a clean history.

humfrz · 02-05-2017, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctor_driver

I am in need of wisdom; ..........

Hello doctor_driver, and welcome to ye ol forum ......

Looking for wisdom ... ?? I'm not sure you came to the right place ...

Oh, heck, I'd pick the one that has the color you like best ......

humfrz

doctor_driver · 02-05-2017, 04:22 PM

Because I honestly am just looking for something to make a track toy.

Tcoat · 02-05-2017, 04:37 PM

Track toy or casual driver I would go with whatever is the cheapest. If able to do your own work you could pick up a fender at the wreckers (probably even find the right colour) and swap it out pretty easy. Or just roughly pop it back out and forget about it. Not gonna win any shows but who cares?

doctor_driver · 02-05-2017, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Track toy or casual driver I would go with whatever is the cheapest. If able to do your own work you could pick up a fender at the wreckers (probably even find the right colour) and swap it out pretty easy. Or just roughly pop it back out and forget about it. Not gonna win any shows but who cares?

Yeah that's what I was think exactly. I don't need anything to impress anyone, just something that could get me on the track that will hold up reasonably well and won't break the bank either.

darthpnoy1984 · 02-05-2017, 06:35 PM

I bought and restore my 15 FRS that I purchased from Copart best advice I would give you is to ask for pictures what it looked like before the repairs along with receipts.

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doctor_driver · 02-05-2017, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

I bought and restore my 15 FRS that I purchased from Copart best advice I would give you is to ask for pictures what it looked like before the repairs along with receipts.

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The rebuilt one is in the 3rd owner since the rebuild so no one really knows what happened.

02-05-2017, 04:37 PM	#11
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02-05-2017, 01:34 PM	#1
doctor_driver Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 17' BRZ - PP Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I face a dilema Edit: I have taken your advice and am not going to go for either of these two cars - ended up finding a good deal on a clean (and already turboed and tuned) FRS on this site and I plan to go through with it. Thanks for all the help. I am in need of wisdom; I have either the option of Option 1: FR-S with 34k miles on it for $11k but it was wrecked and written off as a total loss by insurance and apparently rebuilt back in 2015 and is registered under a clean title now. No other information is available on the car besides 2 previous owners saying it was in a fender bender in a parking lot (that caused a total loss?? I'm weary of that). The current owner bought the car without knowledge of the wreck and rebuild back in December. Option 2:FR-S with 70k miles on it for $9k, motor was rebuilt by the dealer 2k miles ago (owner has paperwork and proof) but it has a big dent in the driver side fender. The low mileage engine is enticing for me but I have been told too that a rebuilt motor is sometimes close to new as well. What do y'all think is my best option? I'm looking to slowly turn this into a track dedicated car as well. Last edited by doctor_driver; 02-05-2017 at 11:19 PM.

02-05-2017, 01:49 PM	#3
JD001 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UK Posts: 6,266 Thanks: 7,985 Thanked 6,509 Times in 3,643 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Why not place an ad on this very forum, WTB a Twin. I'm sure you'll find something more appealing compared to the two that you are considering.

02-05-2017, 01:52 PM	#4
Gil Scott Heron Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: '17 Asphalt 86 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 30 Thanks: 68 Thanked 22 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it's to be track dedicated do either the salvage title on beater #1 or the dented fender on beater #2 really matter in the long run?

02-05-2017, 02:02 PM	#5
Th3rdSun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S MT Hot Lava Location: Chicagoland Area Posts: 590 Thanks: 156 Thanked 309 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	How is this a dilemma? I wouldn't touch either of those cars with a ten foot pole. If you have up to 11K to spend on a car,use that as a down payment for something better.Depending on your credit situation,with that much down,you should have pretty low monthly payments on a brand new FR-S,or even one that's used but in much better condition than the two you are looking at.

02-05-2017, 02:59 PM	#6
doctor_driver Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 17' BRZ - PP Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	well I have a 2014 Focus ST fully paid off that I daily and autocross with. Wanted to get a fun RWD car for track days and as a project car for the next few years. Not looking for a perfect twin by any means, just something cheap I can drop mods into for track performance but still function as a daily driver when I'm in the mood for it.

02-05-2017, 03:06 PM	#7
Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,409 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Probably avoid both and buy a vehicle that wasn't at one time, or isn't currently a pile of poo.

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RallySport Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: FRS Location: Bend, OR Posts: 89 Thanks: 263 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For ~$100 /mo more get a car with a clean history.

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doctor_driver Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 17' BRZ - PP Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Because I honestly am just looking for something to make a track toy.

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