To finally beat those muscle cars in straigh line... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mdm · 07-31-2016, 11:42 PM

... the twins need a CVT.

Proven!

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Captain Snooze · 08-01-2016, 01:08 AM

I know nothing of modern cv transmissions but I thought one of the main disadvantages of CVs were they were quite inefficient. That is, there was a lot of frictional loss.

Vampyre · 08-01-2016, 01:15 AM

My wife has one on her Juke Nismo RS. it is really off on the fake gear changes. Mid throttle response is super slow. Seems OK when you floor it in sport mode though.

Irace86 · 08-01-2016, 02:10 AM

My buddy has one on his Grizzly. Thing was pretty sweet at accelerating. Not my cup of tea though.

weederr33 · 08-01-2016, 09:26 AM

Hello everyone, and welcome!

JazzleSAURUS · 08-01-2016, 11:06 AM

CVT's are really cool, and work great depending on their application. I have been really impressed with them in snowmobiles through the years. I think the big problem with them is getting them to behave nicely, and informing the consumer about what they are doing.

The fake shift point thing needs to come to an end, and consumers need to understand that their car is putting more power to the ground and consuming less fuel because it's behaving differently than a transmission they are used to.

If manufactures can convince people to stop being so stupid, CVT's can kill it.

daiheadjai · 08-01-2016, 06:42 PM

My Impreza has the "drooling idiot" of CVTs. Highway merges are needlessly exciting (not in a good way) and it takes a good half second to actually get in gear after you select the gear (much slower than a conventional 4 speed slushbox)

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Burrcold · 08-01-2016, 06:43 PM

I hate them. My wife has a 2014 Accord and the rev hang drone you get when trying to get to highway speeds is so annoying.

FX86 · 08-01-2016, 06:49 PM

i had a versa sl hatchback with cvt and it was great

Sigh-on-Rice · 08-01-2016, 09:40 PM

I didn't like the CVT in Corolla and Rogue. But I actually don't mind the CVT in WRX and Forester XT. I don't know if Subaru's lineartronic cvt is that much better or if FA20DIT + CVT just match better, but I actually liked it. I wouldn't want it in a driver's car, but I like it in a car like Forester XT.

strat61caster · 08-01-2016, 10:06 PM

Someone needs to make a quick econobox with a CVT to show how it can really make a difference in terms of performance. That means uncompromising drone and a boring ride and convincing the media to track test a V6 CVT Camry or whatever against the likes of the sub $30k 'sports cars', the big thing will be the noise, they should shoot for electric car like quietness, drop all the bullshit with the fake shifts and tell people to deal with it.

Toyota has the clout to do it, but I don't know if they know how from a bean counter marketing perspective. Nissan has the bean counter/marketers approving the Maxima as the fastest beige-mobile for about 20 years, but I don't know if they're strong enough technically to make a good car around it at a reasonable price point.

Mr.ac · 08-01-2016, 10:25 PM

Lol that dude and his vids make me laugh. He also needs to eat some more meat and taters.

But meh. CVT On paper it's seems logical. Real world, nope. Then again a tranny is only as good as the power plant feeding it.

tofurun · 08-01-2016, 10:34 PM

I owned an automatic CVT Nissan Juke for a few years. By far the smoothest, nicest, cleanest transmission I have ever owned. CVT for the Win. Also had them on 2 Honda Ruckus I owned. Theyre fun to tinker with.... Any way. KDD is the future lol

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gravitylover · 08-02-2016, 01:03 AM

I had an early release Crosstrek and hated it. Sluggish and boring mostly due to the tranny. If it had better seats and was quieter I might have been able to put up with it for longer but... that tranny BLAH.

07-31-2016, 11:42 PM	#1
mdm not a twin owner Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 2016 Veloster Turbo DCT Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 734 Thanks: 992 Thanked 463 Times in 267 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	To finally beat those muscle cars in straigh line... ... the twins need a CVT. Proven! [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb6rIZfCuHI"]Are CVTs The Best (Fastest) Transmissions? - YouTube[/ame]

08-01-2016, 01:08 AM	#2
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,818 Thanks: 4,050 Thanked 9,551 Times in 4,195 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know nothing of modern cv transmissions but I thought one of the main disadvantages of CVs were they were quite inefficient. That is, there was a lot of frictional loss. __________________ My car is completely stock except for all the mods.

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weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,420 Thanks: 4,579 Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Hello everyone, and welcome! __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

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JazzleSAURUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ LTD, 05 FXT Location: Western MA Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 561 Thanked 560 Times in 353 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	CVT's are really cool, and work great depending on their application. I have been really impressed with them in snowmobiles through the years. I think the big problem with them is getting them to behave nicely, and informing the consumer about what they are doing. The fake shift point thing needs to come to an end, and consumers need to understand that their car is putting more power to the ground and consuming less fuel because it's behaving differently than a transmission they are used to. If manufactures can convince people to stop being so stupid, CVT's can kill it. __________________ SOLD: 2015 WRB BRZ Limited ('02 WRX BBS, S-04's, Stoptech Sport pads, MXP SP, AVO drop in filter, Mishimoto Intake tube, decatted header, OFT 93 Stage 2 EL Tune, Kartboy rear shifter bushing, Whiteline transmission and subframe lockout bushings, ST Coilovers, SPC Camber bolts w/smaller crash bolt, SPC LCA's & SPC Toe Arm bushings, Red TOMs, TRD Wing.)

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Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hate them. My wife has a 2014 Accord and the rev hang drone you get when trying to get to highway speeds is so annoying. __________________

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Vampyre Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 FR-S Asphalt Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 116 Thanks: 0 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	My wife has one on her Juke Nismo RS. it is really off on the fake gear changes. Mid throttle response is super slow. Seems OK when you floor it in sport mode though.

08-01-2016, 06:42 PM	#7
daiheadjai Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2003 S2000, 2008 Fit Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 1,990 Thanks: 2,584 Thanked 1,154 Times in 688 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Impreza has the "drooling idiot" of CVTs. Highway merges are needlessly exciting (not in a good way) and it takes a good half second to actually get in gear after you select the gear (much slower than a conventional 4 speed slushbox) Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk

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FX86 Banned Join Date: May 2016 Drives: on the wrongside of the road Location: rear floor mats Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 1,084 Thanked 2,087 Times in 1,015 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	i had a versa sl hatchback with cvt and it was great

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Mr.ac [insert cool phrase here] Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: BRZ Premium Location: Central Coast CA Posts: 2,368 Thanks: 709 Thanked 1,559 Times in 930 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol that dude and his vids make me laugh. He also needs to eat some more meat and taters. But meh. CVT On paper it's seems logical. Real world, nope. Then again a tranny is only as good as the power plant feeding it. __________________ New daily driver - Subaru BRZ Premium Weekend fun/track car - '91 MR2 Turbo Gen3 Old daily driver - '88 MR2 Supercharged

08-02-2016, 01:03 AM	#14
gravitylover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT White Location: SE NY Posts: 1,503 Thanks: 1,218 Thanked 669 Times in 474 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I had an early release Crosstrek and hated it. Sluggish and boring mostly due to the tranny. If it had better seats and was quieter I might have been able to put up with it for longer but... that tranny BLAH. __________________

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