I always heard about family cars being faster.. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

kev60625 · 03-17-2016, 06:30 AM

First of all, I love the BRZ! I'm not going to sell the car, nor upset at all

Its funny, I always heard on here about how minivans and soccer mom vehicles were faster than the BRZ. I would always think people saying it were silly, no way a 3500+lb family hauler with no hp would be faster at a red light..
Then at a red light earlier tonight, i actually had it happen to me!!! It was a Nissan rouge..

We were in a 3 lane street, with me being on the far left, and the rouge on my left. Cars are usually parked on the left side, but it was empty tonight so he was there. I assumed the rouge wanted to make a left turn at the red light we were waiting on, to the one way street on our left. As soon as the light goes green and he went straight I realized he was on the parking lane just trying to pass traffic, I normally don't care, but figured why not just get infront of him since I was already accelerating kind of fast and thought he was a jerk for driving on the parking lane. I went wot, shift into 2nd around 6k, keep wot...we are neck and neck! After about 4 seconds of my car screaming and his barely heard, I backed off and let him get infront of me.

My car has full bolt ons with 35whp added. While I know I didnt launch the car, I think this was embarrassing for the BRZ, haha. I found it so funny it finally happened to me, what everyone always joked about.

Inb4thisisntadragcarbuyamustang

ZionsWrath · 03-17-2016, 06:34 AM

Why you shift at 6,000 if you dragging between lights. We only get our baby power after 4k, you left 1/3 of the effective power band on the table.

I mean, you shoulda bought a mustang

go_a_way1 · 03-17-2016, 09:01 AM

Do full bolt ons really give you 35whp?? I never put my car on a dyno cuz frankly I could give 2 shits

jasonojordan · 03-17-2016, 09:08 AM

an e85 tune on its own gets close from what Ive read.

soulreapersteve · 03-17-2016, 09:18 AM

Sounds like you need some N2O.

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xmadror · 03-17-2016, 10:43 AM

Code:

Nissan rogue 
QR25DE 2.5l, 4 cyl, 170hp (6000rmp) 175lb-ft (4400rpm) (no v-6 option)
Weight 1550
0 to 60 : 8.9 sec

Code:

FRS
FA20 2.0l, 4 cyl, 200hp, 150 lb-ft
weight ~1250
0 to 60 ~6.5 (with a good launch)

I think you did something wrong

(6k rpm shift ?? way too soon)
Even with a bad launch he should not have been able to get in front of you even less with full bolt on!

Having said that, letting him go was certainly better than street racing him.
I hate when people do stuff like that but I'm not gonna do worst then them either ...

ZionsWrath · 03-17-2016, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmadror

Code:

Nissan rogue 
QR25DE 2.5l, 4 cyl, 170hp (6000rmp) 175lb-ft (4400rpm) (no v-6 option)
Weight 1550
0 to 60 : 8.9 sec

Code:

FRS
FA20 2.0l, 4 cyl, 200hp, 150 lb-ft
weight ~1250
0 to 60 ~6.5 (with a good launch)

I think you did something wrong

(6k rpm shift ?? way too soon)
Even with a bad launch he should not have been able to get in front of you.

Having said that, letting him go was certainly better than street racing him.
I hate when people do stuff like that but I'm not gonna do worst then them either ...

The guy probably didn't even notice the OP was trying to out accelerate him.

That is the best part about the story

mav1178 · 03-17-2016, 11:24 AM

Driver error.

KL · 03-17-2016, 11:43 AM

Yeah, something doesn't sound right. One of my parent's cars is a Rogue and even though it can be reasonably expedient when empty it's never been fast enough to keep up with my BRZ and I'm not even fully bolted.

zc06_kisstherain · 03-17-2016, 12:32 PM

i already admitted 200hp cannot compete minivans..

Vmax911 · 03-17-2016, 12:47 PM

Torque curve differences?

Nismo rogue?

you running 87 octane?

That's why I never try to race anyone, so I never lose.

NyC Zn6 · 03-17-2016, 01:30 PM

There are tons of grocery getters that would destroy our cars at the light..Half the forum "these cars are for corners bruh"

Tcoat · 03-17-2016, 02:41 PM

Geeeez people drive your cars!

JD001 · 03-17-2016, 02:47 PM

In the UK sports cars are disguised as white vans driven by expert racing drivers and no matter what super car you drive you'll never win.

03-17-2016, 06:30 AM	#1
kev60625 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Chicago Posts: 220 Thanks: 41 Thanked 45 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I always heard about family cars being faster.. First of all, I love the BRZ! I'm not going to sell the car, nor upset at all Its funny, I always heard on here about how minivans and soccer mom vehicles were faster than the BRZ. I would always think people saying it were silly, no way a 3500+lb family hauler with no hp would be faster at a red light.. Then at a red light earlier tonight, i actually had it happen to me!!! It was a Nissan rouge.. We were in a 3 lane street, with me being on the far left, and the rouge on my left. Cars are usually parked on the left side, but it was empty tonight so he was there. I assumed the rouge wanted to make a left turn at the red light we were waiting on, to the one way street on our left. As soon as the light goes green and he went straight I realized he was on the parking lane just trying to pass traffic, I normally don't care, but figured why not just get infront of him since I was already accelerating kind of fast and thought he was a jerk for driving on the parking lane. I went wot, shift into 2nd around 6k, keep wot...we are neck and neck! After about 4 seconds of my car screaming and his barely heard, I backed off and let him get infront of me. My car has full bolt ons with 35whp added. While I know I didnt launch the car, I think this was embarrassing for the BRZ, haha. I found it so funny it finally happened to me, what everyone always joked about. Inb4thisisntadragcarbuyamustang

03-17-2016, 06:34 AM	#2
ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Why you shift at 6,000 if you dragging between lights. We only get our baby power after 4k, you left 1/3 of the effective power band on the table. I mean, you shoulda bought a mustang __________________

03-17-2016, 10:43 AM	#6
xmadror Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: BRZ Sport Tech 13 Location: Canada, Qc Posts: 118 Thanks: 25 Thanked 98 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Code: Nissan rogue QR25DE 2.5l, 4 cyl, 170hp (6000rmp) 175lb-ft (4400rpm) (no v-6 option) Weight 1550 0 to 60 : 8.9 sec Code: FRS FA20 2.0l, 4 cyl, 200hp, 150 lb-ft weight ~1250 0 to 60 ~6.5 (with a good launch) I think you did something wrong (6k rpm shift ?? way too soon) Even with a bad launch he should not have been able to get in front of you even less with full bolt on! Having said that, letting him go was certainly better than street racing him. I hate when people do stuff like that but I'm not gonna do worst then them either ...

03-17-2016, 02:41 PM	#13
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Geeeez people drive your cars! __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

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