Can't decide!

[MrStickers]

I need help choosing between these two tires, but before I tell you the tires, let me tell you the conditions it'll be in.

I drive a lot since I'm active duty military and need something that won't wear so easily and need to be replaced within 10k miles.

I'm in Oklahoma. Rains a lot during the spring/summer. Need some good handling in the wet.

Of course I'm going to want to have some fun once in a while so I need something with good grip.

OK now the two tires are the Falken Pro G4 A/S and the Kumho Ecsta ASX. I was looking at the hankook S1 noble2 also.

They will be in 245/40/17

Decision?

[pcporo]

this will only make it more complicated, but i greatly enjoyed the Nitto Motivo and it has a 60,000-mile treadwear warranty

[swarb]

Originally Posted by MrStickers

I need help choosing between these two tires, but before I tell you the tires, let me tell you the conditions it'll be in.

I drive a lot since I'm active duty military and need something that won't wear so easily and need to be replaced within 10k miles.

I'm in Oklahoma. Rains a lot during the spring/summer. Need some good handling in the wet.

Of course I'm going to want to have some fun once in a while so I need something with good grip.

OK now the two tires are the Falken Pro G4 A/S and the Kumho Ecsta ASX. I was looking at the hankook S1 noble2 also.

They will be in 245/40/17

Decision?

Everything is a compromise, look at reviews on tire rack and decide which works better for you.

[Icecreamtruk]

I cannot speak for any of those tires as I havent tried them. I usually are agaisnt the band wagon on the Michelin PSS, because well, I have them. I dont think they are as great as people make them out to be for dry handling. But for your needs, which are 1: durability and 2: wet grip, they are the best tire I've had.

Durability: This will be my third year on them, they have around 15k miles and around 18 track days (with around 3h hours of track time per day). They are still not down to half their thread. The edges outside are worn more because I dont have front camber (working on it, after winter) and I rotated them.

Wet grip: Very good, even on standing still water. I'd say around ADR08 levels of grip in the wet (have competed agaisnt other 86s in wet and dry, while they were using ADR08 tires, they were around 1sec faster than me on dry, around the same times on wet, I was faster when it was raining so hard that you could not see the cars over 100 feet ahead of you but that might've been driver).

I know treadwear changes from one company to another, but just as a vague reference, the PSS are 300 treadwear. For your needs, I would look at 300+ treadwear, the higher the longer they will last, but the less grip they will have also (specially on the rain).

Also mind you, some tires end up cracking with the heat and cooldown cycles. For example, my dad's acura TL tires have 5 years in them. They have still plenty of thread, but they have started cracking, like if they were made of solid plastic rather than rubber.

[Shark_Bait88]

I've heard very good things about the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 A/S. A buddy of mine, who is a track instructor, runs them on his DD Jetta TDI Wagon that he takes all over the place, and he has even tracked them at #GRIDLIFE.

If I was getting tires for daily/distance/weather driving that will still have good performance it'd be these.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

[Summerwolf]

I have personally, never had any good luck with Kuhmo. I actually have had that exact size before in a Sumitomo HTRZ 3 and loved it. Not one issue.


Here is a review I did for them. http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326858


I drove cross country on Sumitomo tires multiple times while in the military, never had one issue.