Stage 2 tune without Supercharger or Turbo - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

StrayJay · 01-22-2016, 01:55 PM

So not knowing a lot about tuning, can I put a stage two tune on my car without a supercharger or a turbo? I'm adding a few more modifications before I add it, most likely a few more exhaust/pipe modifications.

go_a_way1 · 01-22-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by StrayJay

So not knowing a lot about tuning, can I put a stage two tune on my car without a supercharger or a turbo? I'm adding a few more modifications before I add it, most likely a few more exhaust/pipe modifications.

Stage one is for a car with OEM header or cats

Stage two is for a catless car

thats basically it

Jonathanlim · 01-22-2016, 01:59 PM

Stage 1- For vehicles equipped with original header. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel or fuel as specified by tune.

Stage 2- For vehicles equipped with aftermarket cat-less headers. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel or fuel as specified by tune

91 (USA) octane or better required for 91 octane tunes
93 (USA) octane or better required for 93 octane tunes

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71157

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JB86'd · 01-22-2016, 01:59 PM

Stage 2 usually refers to a tune for catless header. If you add Forced Induction, you'll need a different tune for that.

StrayJay · 01-22-2016, 02:03 PM

So a Stage 2 adds more horsepower than Stage 1 correct? Anybody know how much more exactly?

Jonathanlim · 01-22-2016, 02:10 PM

Refer to this it has all the info. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493

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go_a_way1 · 01-22-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StrayJay

So a Stage 2 adds more horsepower than Stage 1 correct? Anybody know how much more exactly?

Yes but mainly due to the fact you have no cats restricting flow

D_Thissen · 01-22-2016, 02:22 PM

Search is your friend

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493

Tectoniic · 01-22-2016, 02:49 PM

When you say stage 2 we need to know what stage 2 you are referring to. Plenty of supercharger or turbo kits have a stage 1 or stage 2 and Open flash tablet also has its own stage 1 and 2.

I'm going to assume you are talking about Open flash tablet and someone already posted a link to it above that is way more in depth.

Quick Rundown

Stock car works with:
Stage 1 with 91 or 93 depending on what is available in your area
Stage 2 E85, should be self explanatory but this tune is only to be used ethanol based fuels. This will net you a solid hp and tq increase but you will lose fuel economy.

This applies to most naturally aspirated cars as long as they have not replaced their factory headers with some type of high flow or catless header.

Catless Header
Stage 2 91 or 93 but you also need to make sure you pick the correct header configuration between UEL and EL.

DO NOT JUST PUT STAGE 2 ON YOUR CAR BECAUSE MOAR POWAAAHH BRUH!!!!!!!!! The stage 2 tune does not just magically give you more power for free especially if you do not have the components it is designed to work with. It has been designed to work with less restrictive exhaust components to maximize the power you already have.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 01-23-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StrayJay

So not knowing a lot about tuning, can I put a stage two tune on my car without a supercharger or a turbo? I'm adding a few more modifications before I add it, most likely a few more exhaust/pipe modifications.

I'm assuming your speaking of openflash stage tunes, I'm not entirely sure they'd work in an FI application you'd definitely need to get a custom e-tune.
This is what's written in the README that comes with the Off-The-shelf tunes when you download them:

Vishnu FA20 OTS Map Release Notes
OTS Map Requirements:

Stage 1- For vehicles equipped with original header. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel only.

Stage 2- For vehicles equipped with aftermarket cat-less headers. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel only.

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Originally Posted by StrayJay

So a Stage 2 adds more horsepower than Stage 1 correct? Anybody know how much more exactly?

Different for each car and conditions, but you can assume so, because the stage 2 has more aggressive modifications

01-22-2016, 01:55 PM	#1
StrayJay Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Stage 2 tune without Supercharger or Turbo So not knowing a lot about tuning, can I put a stage two tune on my car without a supercharger or a turbo? I'm adding a few more modifications before I add it, most likely a few more exhaust/pipe modifications.

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Jonathanlim Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 15' Frs Location: ATLANTA GA Posts: 52 Thanks: 14 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Stage 2 tune without Supercharger or Turbo Stage 1- For vehicles equipped with original header. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel or fuel as specified by tune. Stage 2- For vehicles equipped with aftermarket cat-less headers. Other exhaust modifications also compatible. Stock airbox (with or without aftermarket drop-in panel filter) also recommend. Premium grade fuel or fuel as specified by tune 91 (USA) octane or better required for 91 octane tunes 93 (USA) octane or better required for 93 octane tunes http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71157 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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JB86'd Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: JAWS Location: socal Posts: 703 Thanks: 753 Thanked 437 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Stage 2 usually refers to a tune for catless header. If you add Forced Induction, you'll need a different tune for that. __________________

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StrayJay Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	So a Stage 2 adds more horsepower than Stage 1 correct? Anybody know how much more exactly?

01-22-2016, 02:49 PM	#9
Tectoniic #FiftyShadesOfBlue Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: Chicago Posts: 1,195 Thanks: 2,086 Thanked 1,425 Times in 730 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	When you say stage 2 we need to know what stage 2 you are referring to. Plenty of supercharger or turbo kits have a stage 1 or stage 2 and Open flash tablet also has its own stage 1 and 2. I'm going to assume you are talking about Open flash tablet and someone already posted a link to it above that is way more in depth. Quick Rundown Stock car works with: Stage 1 with 91 or 93 depending on what is available in your area Stage 2 E85, should be self explanatory but this tune is only to be used ethanol based fuels. This will net you a solid hp and tq increase but you will lose fuel economy. This applies to most naturally aspirated cars as long as they have not replaced their factory headers with some type of high flow or catless header. Catless Header Stage 2 91 or 93 but you also need to make sure you pick the correct header configuration between UEL and EL. DO NOT JUST PUT STAGE 2 ON YOUR CAR BECAUSE MOAR POWAAAHH BRUH!!!!!!!!! The stage 2 tune does not just magically give you more power for free especially if you do not have the components it is designed to work with. It has been designed to work with less restrictive exhaust components to maximize the power you already have. __________________ Engine/Exhaust: OFT w/ E85 Tune \| FT86SF Catted UEL \| Invidia Q300 Catback Wheels/Tires/Suspension: Avid.1 AV-20 18x8.5 +33 w/ 245/35/18 PSS \| RCE Yellow Springs \| Velox LCAs Cosmetic: Valenti FT86SF Special Edition Tails \| Diode Dynamics Full HID/LEDs \| BRZ Fender Garnishes

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