FRS FA20 turbo vs FRS lsx/2jz

[Reaper]

I have just a turbo kit and I beat 600s. 2jz frs' s are running low 9s. Most liter bikes run 10s.

[Decay107]

Haven't really been following the drag threads, but where are the fast twins at now? I let someone with far more skill than myself do a few passes on my old $3500 bone stock 2006 CBR1000RR and the best run was a 10.13

[Decay107]

I stand corrected.

Still, if you want to go fast it's hard to make a compelling argument against bikes. Unless, of course money is of absolutely no concern.

[AZFA20]

Originally Posted by PhoKingCool

Exactly! Keep in mind guys, 95% of the people that say they're going with a LSX, 2JZ, or whatever swap, end up dropping their projects because it goes over their heads. Kind of like those two guys working on their 1-2 year long "2JZ Project". @slicktop @Drift&Drag Is it really worth it to dump that much money and time into this chassis?? Not only that, but what about utilizing the power behind the build. Both engines are over built for what this car can handle. SMFH What a waste!! lol

Guess I'm in the 5%. Been 2 weeks and I'm almost done. Just waiting on parts. I have never understood why people talk down on swaps of any kind. It's at the very heart of hot rodding and tuning. If people were rational with this industry their would be no such thing as aftermarket performance.

The cost keeps getting brought up and honestly that tells me that those concerned with price either hate on these swaps because they themselves can't afford it or they just don't comprehend the real cost of a reliable FA20 at those same power levels. Why not go and buy a corvette? Well simply put, that takes the fun out of it. Nothing wrong with a vette (I love em) but for me I like the 86 chassis but prefer the GM powertrain. Just like anything you get use to power and these chassis handle 500hp just fine. While not for the faint of heart the pedal by design achieves more than just on/off haha.

[OmarGC]

Originally Posted by PhoKingCool

Exactly! Keep in mind guys, 95% of the people that say they're going with a LSX, 2JZ, or whatever swap, end up dropping their projects because it goes over their heads. Kind of like those two guys working on their 1-2 year long "2JZ Project". @slicktop @Drift&Drag Is it really worth it to dump that much money and time into this chassis?? Not only that, but what about utilizing the power behind the build. Both engines are over built for what this car can handle. SMFH What a waste!! lol

Not sure if serious...

[vividracing]

[solus]

Originally Posted by AZFA20

Guess I'm in the 5%. Been 2 weeks and I'm almost done. Just waiting on parts. I have never understood why people talk down on swaps of any kind. It's at the very heart of hot rodding and tuning. If people were rational with this industry their would be no such thing as aftermarket performance.

The cost keeps getting brought up and honestly that tells me that those concerned with price either hate on these swaps because they themselves can't afford it or they just don't comprehend the real cost of a reliable FA20 at those same power levels. Why not go and buy a corvette? Well simply put, that takes the fun out of it. Nothing wrong with a vette (I love em) but for me I like the 86 chassis but prefer the GM powertrain. Just like anything you get use to power and these chassis handle 500hp just fine. While not for the faint of heart the pedal by design achieves more than just on/off haha.

Still not convinced that 500 hp is useable on this chassis... Most "500 hp" builds are over built and achieve nothing other that sounding cool when you read off the mods sheet. Props for having the technical fortitude to actually do the work though. Just seems as a useful as tits on a bull.

Also, basically you're swapping a Twins body onto a GM car, almost nothing except the look of the car will remain in order to put that kind of power down on a consistent basis.

[Pete156]

Originally Posted by solus

Still not convinced that 500 hp is useable on this chassis... Most "500 hp" builds are over built and achieve nothing other that sounding cool when you read off the mods sheet. Props for having the technical fortitude to actually do the work though. Just seems as a useful as tits on a bull.

Couldn't agree more! Most of the ~300whp 86s on this forum will completely run away from the 500whp ones while they sit and spin. Totally unusable power in 99% of real world situations.

[PhoKingCool]

Originally Posted by AZFA20

Guess I'm in the 5%. Been 2 weeks and I'm almost done. Just waiting on parts. I have never understood why people talk down on swaps of any kind. It's at the very heart of hot rodding and tuning. If people were rational with this industry their would be no such thing as aftermarket performance.

The cost keeps getting brought up and honestly that tells me that those concerned with price either hate on these swaps because they themselves can't afford it or they just don't comprehend the real cost of a reliable FA20 at those same power levels. Why not go and buy a corvette? Well simply put, that takes the fun out of it. Nothing wrong with a vette (I love em) but for me I like the 86 chassis but prefer the GM powertrain. Just like anything you get use to power and these chassis handle 500hp just fine. While not for the faint of heart the pedal by design achieves more than just on/off haha.

People have their own opinions of what they think this car can accomplish which some I find comical. It is naive to state that people cannot afford it. Shoot I rather invest in my house than an automobile which is the worst subject to dump money into. If you want something with a LSX, get a Vette. If you want something with a 2JZ that would hold its value, get a 1993-1998 Supra TT.

Originally Posted by OmarGC

Not sure if serious...

I wouldn't have posted it lol

[PhoKingCool]

Originally Posted by solus

Still not convinced that 500 hp is useable on this chassis... Most "500 hp" builds are over built and achieve nothing other that sounding cool when you read off the mods sheet. Props for having the technical fortitude to actually do the work though. Just seems as a useful as tits on a bull.

Also, basically you're swapping a Twins body onto a GM car, almost nothing except the look of the car will remain in order to put that kind of power down on a consistent basis.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Pete156

Couldn't agree more! Most of the ~300whp 86s on this forum will completely run away from the 500whp ones while they sit and spin. Totally unusable power in 99% of real world situations.

Well said.

[AZFA20]

Sounds like neither of you know how to drive. Nor do you understand the use of traction control aids I guess

To say there is nothing left of the 86 is also not even remotely true. The only thing different is the engine and trans.

Oh well.......... steps out to shop to actually build cars.

[Reaper]

People are boring now I guess.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Not to be off topic here, but I feel this car to be even more fun only needs 20-40 more hp. I'm surprised nobody has done an FA20F swap from the new wrx or jdm legacy gt or something...

[Dipstik-sportech]

Originally Posted by Decay107

Haven't really been following the drag threads, but where are the fast twins at now? I let someone with far more skill than myself do a few passes on my old $3500 bone stock 2006 CBR1000RR and the best run was a 10.13

11.11 isn't fast?