My HVAC - hot, cold, and not much else . . . - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

geezerbrzeezer · 02-26-2017, 01:41 AM

Right around 21 degrees Celsius is where the action is. Between roughly that and HI, the heat output is really not graduated much - it's just hot. Same goes with cold between that and LOW.

Anybody else notice this? I can live with it, but it's just kinda odd and a little annoying.

Tcoat · 02-26-2017, 01:45 AM

You pretty much nailed it.

finch1750 · 02-26-2017, 02:09 AM

Yup. No autoclimate means you get 2 settings only.

I usually give a combo of heat and window down to balance out the stuffiness in the winter. In the summer i drive windows down til it gets over 100, and even then if on the freeway the wind is enough

humfrz · 02-26-2017, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geezerbrzeezer

Right around 21 degrees Celsius is where the action is. Between roughly that and HI, the heat output is really not graduated much - it's just hot. Same goes with cold between that and LOW.

Anybody else notice this? I can live with it, but it's just kinda odd and a little annoying.

Ya jest gotta adjust with layered clothing, old man.

Your bodies circulation just ain't what it used to be ......

humfrz

Braces · 02-26-2017, 09:19 AM

Small cabin size probably has something to do with it.

gramicci101 · 02-26-2017, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by finch1750

Yup. No autoclimate means you get 2 settings only.

Honestly the climate control sucks. I want it to blow cool air, so I set it for 62. And the car says "But it's 60 outside, so I'm going to blow hot air." So I turn it to LO, and it freezes me out.

MarkR171 · 02-26-2017, 11:27 AM

I wouldn't exactly call the 86 cabin small...

Dake · 02-26-2017, 04:52 PM

It may not be precise, but I've never had a problem keeping it comfortable on either end of the spectrum. Ultimately, I think I prefer dumb controls over digital temp controllers. Since the digital ones don't have sufficient sensors, you invariably wind up with hot or cold spots anyway.

ToySub1946 · 02-26-2017, 05:35 PM

Best reason why I don't want this 'Automatic dual-zone climate control' on any car.

I drive manual transmission to always be in control.

I have manual climate controls so I'm able to be in control of my HVAC as well.

I'm also very comfortable using a real metal key to start my car.

Lots of things on cars currently is just marketing BS. They want us to think we need stuff we really don't need at all.

Tcoat · 02-26-2017, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Best reason why I don't want this 'Automatic dual-zone climate control' on any car.

I drive manual transmission to always be in control.

I have manual climate controls so I'm able to be in control of my HVAC as well.

I'm also very comfortable using a real metal key to start my car.

Lots of things on cars currently is just marketing BS. They want us to think we need stuff we really don't need at all.

When the auto climate system works well (as in all my Lancers) it is very nice to set it and forget it and I still curse under my breath every time I have to pull that damned key out of my pocket. Do we "need" them? Of course not, but I miss them sometimes.

RallySport · 02-26-2017, 05:57 PM

I agree with both POVs in this thread... I generally prefer manual temp control over auto, but there is something really fiddley about the FRS's temperature control, and find myself making frequent adjustments.

billwot · 02-26-2017, 06:50 PM

I'm not "in the business", but I do have a state HVAC Engineer's license, and I keep a small back-stem dial thermometer in the center vent of all of my vehicles. I only have the standard HAVC system in my FRS.

On a 90F summer with the A/C on, I can modulate the air temp from the vent anywhere between about 42F to about 85F.

On a 30 F winter day with the heat on, I can modulate the air temp from the vent from about 40F to 80F.

chaoskaze · 02-26-2017, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Best reason why I don't want this 'Automatic dual-zone climate control' on any car.

I drive manual transmission to always be in control.

I have manual climate controls so I'm able to be in control of my HVAC as well.

I'm also very comfortable using a real metal key to start my car.

Lots of things on cars currently is just marketing BS. They want us to think we need stuff we really don't need at all.

To be honest the best thing in the car is the seat warmer.....

BTW I don't know why but I hear you talking in this voice.

arxm · 02-26-2017, 09:32 PM

honestly i use the fan speed to counter this, if i want it warm in the car i set it as best as i can but keep the fan on 1 or 2, 3 or 4 feels like I'm opening an oven. I haven't had the car long enough to test the AC. I realize this isn't a benz lol

02-26-2017, 01:41 AM	#1
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02-26-2017, 01:45 AM	#2
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arxm Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2023 BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 248 Thanks: 108 Thanked 74 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	honestly i use the fan speed to counter this, if i want it warm in the car i set it as best as i can but keep the fan on 1 or 2, 3 or 4 feels like I'm opening an oven. I haven't had the car long enough to test the AC. I realize this isn't a benz lol __________________ 2013 Whiteout FRS 6MT with a JRSC RS Pulley @ 500ish WHP 2023 Ignition Red BRZ 6MT awaiting boost

02-26-2017, 04:52 PM	#8
Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,058 Thanks: 464 Thanked 821 Times in 415 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It may not be precise, but I've never had a problem keeping it comfortable on either end of the spectrum. Ultimately, I think I prefer dumb controls over digital temp controllers. Since the digital ones don't have sufficient sensors, you invariably wind up with hot or cold spots anyway.

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ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Best reason why I don't want this 'Automatic dual-zone climate control' on any car. I drive manual transmission to always be in control. I have manual climate controls so I'm able to be in control of my HVAC as well. I'm also very comfortable using a real metal key to start my car. Lots of things on cars currently is just marketing BS. They want us to think we need stuff we really don't need at all.

02-26-2017, 05:57 PM	#11
RallySport Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: FRS Location: Bend, OR Posts: 89 Thanks: 263 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree with both POVs in this thread... I generally prefer manual temp control over auto, but there is something really fiddley about the FRS's temperature control, and find myself making frequent adjustments.

02-26-2017, 06:50 PM	#12
billwot Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '11 Cayman , '14 Camry, '11 Tacoma Location: Eastern NC Posts: 509 Thanks: 57 Thanked 396 Times in 198 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'm not "in the business", but I do have a state HVAC Engineer's license, and I keep a small back-stem dial thermometer in the center vent of all of my vehicles. I only have the standard HAVC system in my FRS. On a 90F summer with the A/C on, I can modulate the air temp from the vent anywhere between about 42F to about 85F. On a 30 F winter day with the heat on, I can modulate the air temp from the vent from about 40F to 80F.

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