which brake pads?

[BAE]

I ran 7 x 20 minutes on the track this weekend with Ferodo DS2500 in front and stock pads in the rear. I liked the brake feel and the bite, no fading. I had the same amount of break dust in front and rear. For street driving you get more break dust in front. I was running 225/45-17 Michelin Supersports.The only thing; I feel a vibration when I am braking now in the front. I feel it when the brakes are cold and I brake hard. It feels like ABS braking when it is slippery only weaker. Could be a damage to one of the discs. I did not use the handbrake after the track sessions and I am pretty sure it is in front. Any one that have an idea what it could be and why?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Probably uneven pad deposits.

- drew

[GingerExtract]

Originally Posted by JRitt

I definitely can't recommend the StopTech Street Performance Pads for anything other than street driving. I've had quite a few customers come to me after burning them up or with judder issues after trying to use them for track duty. Given, some of those cars were different animals than the BRZ/FR-S, but they are a pure street pads along the lines of the Hawk HPS IMO.

My experiences back this up. I replaced my worn OE pads with the Stoptechs in the front as I had a track day coming up quickly. 115*F @ Streets of Willow, 6- 20min sessions. I didn't have any fade issues in my ~2950lb FWD Mazda, but they DESTROYED my rotors. Tons of pad deposit, which means a lot of vibration when using the brakes. Unfortunately, I have not yet had time to pull the rotors and have them turned. At least they are quiet!

[JRitt]

Hi Guys,
I just wanted to announce that we are now an official Endless brake pad and fluid distributor. We are now working directly with Endless Japan. Some of their people were actually visiting us at our offices yesterday. We can get any of their street or race compounds in the OEM FR-S/BRZ shapes...MX72, ME22, N35S, etc.

Endless front BRZ shape is:
EP386

Endless rear BRZ shape:
EP472

Please PM me if you are interested in any of their pads. Thanks.

[BAE]

Originally Posted by JRitt

Hi Guys,
I just wanted to announce that we are now an official Endless brake pad and fluid distributor. We are now working directly with Endless Japan. Some of their people were actually visiting us at our offices yesterday. We can get any of their street or race compounds in the OEM FR-S/BRZ shapes...MX72, ME22, N35S, etc.

Endless front BRZ shape is:
EP386

Endless rear BRZ shape:
EP472

Please PM me if you are interested in any of their pads. Thanks.

What will be the pricing of the Endless pads and how much longer life time do you estimate compared to e.g. Ferodo 2500?

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by BAE

What will be the pricing of the Endless pads and how much longer life time do you estimate compared to e.g. Ferodo 2500?

We haven't released formal pricing yet. We just penned the deal this past week, so we have some work to do. We will be getting some sample pads to evaluate on our BRZ, and we'll be putting various pads on our brake dyno. After that, we should be able to give some appropriate recommendations. Until then, we can't really give quality comparisons to other products.

I mainly wanted to post this for existing Endless customers or for those who have been planning to try them; to let them know that we are now a potential source. Thanks!

[track_warrior]

Go with ferodo ds2500 , great pad for street/track low noise great bite and does not catch on fire quickly. Google Essex parts the carry it for our cars. Best pad on the market IMO

[Takeshi]

I am looking for brake pads for several track days a year and mostly DD. I was hoping to keep the pads on all year. I am willing to put up with some extra noise and dust, but as a DD it can't be excessive. Would like to not trash my rotors too quickly either. Ferodo DS2500 seem like a good fit, but are not yet available for the rear.

What do you all think about:

1) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and HP+ in the rear.

2) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and OEM in the rear.

3) Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by Takeshi

I am looking for brake pads for several track days a year and mostly DD. I was hoping to keep the pads on all year. I am willing to put up with some extra noise and dust, but as a DD it can't be excessive. Would like to not trash my rotors too quickly either. Ferodo DS2500 seem like a good fit, but are not yet available for the rear.

What do you all think about:

1) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and HP+ in the rear.

2) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and OEM in the rear.

3) Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Takeshi,
We're only about a month out on the Ferodo DS2500's for the rear arriving from Italy. If you can make it another month, I'd recommend going with the Front DS2500 asap, and getting the rear DS2500 as soon as they are available. In the meantime run the OEM rears. No sense throwing your money away on the rear HP+'s. These cars are much harder on the front brakes than the rears, and the front DS2500's will see you through until the rears arrive.

Assuming you don't have six track days in the next four weeks, and you won't be burning through your OEM rears during that time, that's the route I'd take.

[BAE]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Probably uneven pad deposits.

- drew

You were probably right. It was gone after a few days.

[BAE]

Originally Posted by Takeshi

I am looking for brake pads for several track days a year and mostly DD. I was hoping to keep the pads on all year. I am willing to put up with some extra noise and dust, but as a DD it can't be excessive. Would like to not trash my rotors too quickly either. Ferodo DS2500 seem like a good fit, but are not yet available for the rear.

What do you all think about:

1) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and HP+ in the rear.

2) Ferodo DS2500 in the front and OEM in the rear.

3) Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

My car worked fine on the track with OEM pads in the rear. The Ferodo's are dusting slightly more, but I can easily drive two weeks before you can see it clearly. I get a low squeaking sound sometimes. Nice reminder that you drive a track ready car. :-) I replaced the brake fluid as well to (600F boiling point). That may be as important as the pad upgrade to avoid fading.

[CyberFormula]

Originally Posted by chulooz

No complaints with bobcats on the street. Ill have to wait for more figures to decide what kind of competition setup (same calipers and rotors?) Id end up with.

I like carbotech...

but they're expensive if you're getting Bobcat. Unless you know of some other place that sell cheap?

I can get a set of Front/rear Hawk HPS for $150 shipped.

If you get the Ax6 or Xp's ...then i guess thats understandable.

[danscar]

Anybody tried the Dixcel pads? Only the M-type and Z-type only available so far. These are the more expensive types. The lower end ES and EC types coming out soon.

Just want to change pads for daily drive and maybe once a month track day (no competition). Stock suspension (soon to be replaced with Tein Street Advance) and 18s with Nitto Invo.

Thanks for the inputs!

[acro]

Does anyone have experience with the ebc redstuff pads I used them on my previous car and found that they where pretty good