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Old 06-20-2017, 02:30 PM   #113
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I'm so dissatisfied with this car, I'm about to trade it in for another! >
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:34 PM   #114
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I'd buy another. In fact i like the FA20 so much I'm considering a WRX for the wifey.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:38 PM   #115
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Definite yes. Only change I *might* make would be to buy a manual... well that and I would have bought a cleaner car, there's nothing mechanically wrong with the one I bought but I really wish I still had the stock tails instead of these valenti ones.


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Old 06-21-2017, 05:06 PM   #116
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Haha! In all fairness I don't know if the ones on the car or knockoffs or just shoddy quality since they look like 1st gen's but the majority of the lights are out (only 3 work on the left side, while on the right all but 3 work)...

Wish there was an easy fix but per a number of posts here it seems like the only surefire way to fix them would be to cut into the back of the light re-solder the connections and cross your fingers that they remain that way

(Andddd the only reason I haven't done that is that I don't have another set of taillights in case something goes wrong during the fix...)
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:23 PM   #117
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Stock tails sell for pretty cheap so keep an eye out. I bought a set in perfect condition for $50.
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I'm sure there are folks that would trade with you ...... not me, but some other folks ......


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You're right about that! One of the first things I did was get rid of these awful stock tails and swapped them with smoked Valentis. The stock tail lights are much better on the new 86/BRZ though.
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Old 06-22-2017, 11:35 PM   #119
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I do not have BRZ/86 but considering one.

I used to own Honda Prelude as DD and autocross car - was very happy with it - fun to drive and reliable - and maybe I shouldn't have sold it. But it was front wheel drive, fairly heavy and max tire width you could install without dealing with rubbing issues was 215 (stock 205)...

So I sold it justifying I needed a 4 door 4 seat car, and I wanted it sporty, manual trans, and there was no alternative to BMW 3 series at the time. Almost at the same time I bought Mini Cooper S (manual transmission, LSD) to my wife.

Pretty soon I realized that was big mistake on my end. Mini Cooper saw two flat bead towing trucks in several years. Something that no other car did to me. Big engine carbonization issues, HPFP failure, some genius made coolant and oil flows separated by a plastic gasket inside the engine. Sure enough it cracked eventually... it also consumed 1+qt per 1000 miles and that was considered ok - everyone gets that... radiator fan would randomly turn on after the engine shut off. No engine temperature gauge.... They fix\upgrade something all the time with TSBs/recalls/extended warranties - adding shields to turbo piping of fixing oil pump that was setting cars on fire after you turn the engine off... So we were scared to drive the car too far from the service center. I sold it with great relief.

BMW didn't have this many small things, but got the engine replaced out of warranty. BMW partially accepted their fault and covered 70% of the replacement. So I thought, at least new engine is beneficial. But then electric water-pump fails, AC smells like shit (evaporator leaks), you cannot even replace the battery without some computer programming that is not available to you in reasonable way. So, I think I am giving up. Will fix it and sell.
I sat in a new Toyota86 on Sunday and it's exactly a Subaru Limited painted Orange and t

I worked on Prelude for the pleasure of it (and sometimes fixing it) - suspension and other tweaks, but working on the car just to make it run and because it is ridiculously expensive to go to the dealer.... that's not my peace of bread. I do not want to deal with car makes that waste your time, energy and resources anymore.

Looking my way back towards japan cars, hoping I still can find something fun and reliable.

So, from this point of view... Would you recommend BRZ\86 or not? Does it have serious long term ownership issues?

Also, between the twins which one would you suggest? From just going through brochures I could see that Toyota has Hill Start Assist (can I turn it off?) and Subaru does not. Also, I see they have different infotainment systems. From my experience with one in Outback - Subaru's not good as it does not integrate )yet) with Android Auto or iOS thing.... what other not obvious (but important) differences these cars have?
After 4.5 years with my 2013 BRZ Limited, I bought a 2017
BRZ Yellow Special Rdition. At 9 miles I sent the car out to Crawford and
Put a turbo, intercooler, full 3" Perrin exhaust and lots of other things they recommended
It was Dyno tuned (Ecutek) and runs like a rocket. The only
Thing that sucks is the cheap ass radio and the trapezoid hole it's in. I am replacing
The unit with A Kenwood DNS893S and a 2017 Toyota86 dash fascia which has a rectangular opening

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