2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[alluringreality]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

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Not the best review imo. Editing sucked. Didn't have much to say worthwhile about the car. Crappy camera angles. Fail.

There's also an article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...942708538.html

"Add it all up: The nap-of-the-earth seating position and long hood; the shouty engine and exhaust; the triggerfish steering response and twitch-twitch of the manual gearbox; the merry tail-swinging and the chirpy tires. The BRZ thus perpetrates a splendid and useful fraud on its buyers: a not-so-fast sport coupe that is an absolute riot to drive."

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

LOL - 2400+ posts is not enough?
Edit - - well maybe not for someone who has over 4k posts to his name.

STFU n00b.

Originally Posted by tripjammer

No they are not. They will make a lot of money on each one sold. They are just not going to sell 100k of these per year. No way that is going to happen now but if they bring out a roadster version and a turbo version, they just might.....get up to the 50k unit per year mark.

Didn't know we had one of Toyota's bean counters on board now. Very schway.

This is pretty much a bespoke platform and engine. Never mind they've dug into Subaru's parts bin heavily, and pooled engineering resources to "git er dun". This was a lot of time spent perfecting a car that won't be sold in any kind of volume to make much profit. This is why it will probably see a 7 year + life span. There is no way they will make "a lot of money on each one".

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

I think i read somewhere the car had to be priced as such that they would only break even on it.....

Possibly.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by sirus

Right, sorry I was expecting some grand official price reveal not just a price on the website... I don't keep up with Scion.com. We don't have Scion in Australia... I just want to hassle my dealer here in Oz.

No worries, I just thought maybe I misunderstood.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Why not just get a Mustang GT then, if you throwing weight out the door?

Talking to you is like talking to a wall. It really gets old.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Hatches don't necessarily have to look like a small minivan ya know. My RSX and a Celica looks nothing like a hatch.

And my Eclipse. Mmm... sexy.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Talking to you is like talking to a wall. It really gets old.

Ahahaaa....why so serious? It was a simple question. I don't see the benefits of the GC over an FR-S. And if weight was ok, then I don't see the benefit of a GC over the Mustang.

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Also it's not 2,740 lbs. Subaru the company has stated 2,765 lbs with a full tank of gas(curb weight). What you saw was a car with 3/4 of gas in it.

You are really going to argue about 25lbs just because of the amount of gas?

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

If it was a hatch it would weight more and be more ugly. Hatches are not befitting of a real sports car! LOL!

Seriously though. I am glad it's a coupe. Let Acura bring back the next generation Integra as a hatch with frameless windows like the early intergras.

The LFA is a hatch... u mad?

[Snoopyalien24]

Lol now the new thing Hatch vs trunk ?

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Lol now the new thing Hatch vs trunk ?

Lol...

New car scent or pine tree car freshener.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Ahahaaa....why so serious? It was a simple question. I don't see the benefits of the GC over an FR-S. And if weight was ok, then I don't see the benefit of a GC over the Mustang.

I guess one thing about the GC over the Mustang is that it isn't a Ford (I know Ford has really increased their quality but many still don't like domestic cars). Another thing is the quality of the Hyundai interior. Some like the way that looks vs the retro Mustang. Another is the Hyundai warranty. Another is that there are all kinds of Mustangs around vs the GC being more rare. I think the GC offers a great value with a mix of good performance, interior, standard options, quality and price. But those are just my thoughts.

[Buggy51]

Actually I think pricing the FR-S is actually an ingenious marketing scheme by Toyota/Scion to sell more tC's. Think about it, the idea of the new vehicle draws people to the lots so they can oggle and be dazzled by it. They look at the price and gasp in horror then point to the tC. Look! 5k cheaper and looks just as good!

Its kinda like the Versa strategy in reverse... I doubt anyone actually even buys the lowest model, when for just a few k more I can get the better one... ....

I muse...

[CyberFormula]

i think the issue i have with it is that I DON'T need a new car that offers 2700lb /200hp 2 doors, and low center of gravity.

I've had that once a long time ago...

My point is, if i'm getting one...its going to be used. It isn't THAT special enough to justify 25k.

I brought the type R into the discussion is because..THAT was a total bargain for its class.

FRS - not really a best in its class. What is my money really paying for that is worth 25k? Only up side is that it is NEW. While real FRS competitions are all dead or old.

GTi- that's a bargain because you're buyin an A3 in a sportier characteristic.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Buggy51

Actually I think pricing the FR-S is actually an ingenious marketing scheme by Toyota/Scion to sell more tC's. Think about it, the idea of the new vehicle draws people to the lots so they can oggle and be dazzled by it. They look at the price and gasp in horror then point to the tC. Look! 5k cheaper and looks just as good!

Its kinda like the Versa strategy in reverse... I doubt anyone actually even buys the lowest model, when for just a few k more I can get the better one... ....

I muse...

tC looks just as good?

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by Buggy51

Actually I think pricing the FR-S is actually an ingenious marketing scheme by Toyota/Scion to sell more tC's. Think about it, the idea of the new vehicle draws people to the lots so they can oggle and be dazzled by it. They look at the price and gasp in horror then point to the tC. Look! 5k cheaper and looks just as good!

Its kinda like the Versa strategy in reverse... I doubt anyone actually even buys the lowest model, when for just a few k more I can get the better one... ....

I muse...

Well that is the point of a halo car after all. Get people interested in the brand, get them in the dealership, then sell them something they can actually afford. Cars like the NSX, GTR, and to a lesser extent LFA all serve the same purpose. Get people interested in the brand enough to walk into a dealership.