Potential design flaw with factory rear suspension? (WATER in boot area)

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Marrk

I have read through this entire thread.

1) Are the plugs in this post the solution to the OP's problem?

2) Do the plugs in this post only work with OEM or non-adjusting shocks?

3) With regard to the tow holes on the bottom of the car: A grommet is not a plug, so how does a grommet keep dirt and water out?

1) Should be, at least with them the water/dirt/crap has no way of entering the car.

2) Not sure yet. I plan on ordering them, so we'll see how they work on mine.

3) Technically the tow holes are plugs, not grommets. But I wasnt going to bring that up

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Nice, I'll check mine and get it fixed if they aren't there.

Opie installed mine, bet yours is installed as well. Thank goodness Opie knows his stuff and is on top of things.

[whataboutbob]

Fixed the links. Sorry about that, have a self-singed cert on my webserver. New links are to flickr.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

1) Should be, at least with them the water/dirt/crap has no way of entering the car.

2) Not sure yet. I plan on ordering them, so we'll see how they work on mine.

3) Technically the tow holes are plugs, not grommets. But I wasnt going to bring that up

Please see Post 42 of this thread.

[cto424]

So I only have one one plug covering the tow hole on the drivers side, and I don't have any of the plugs for the suspension....

Are the plugs for the suspension part of the PDI too?

[sho]

I'm so glad a stumbled across this thread.
I had a look at mine as well and as expected, no grommets and so went to the dealership as I just picked it up 2 days ago and wanted to know why they didn't install it. I was told that its usually not install because its not really required but salesman tracked it down for me.

Funny enough the instructions on the packet is quite clear to install the grommets for the pre delivery inspector

[sho]

Originally Posted by cto424

So I only have one one plug covering the tow hole on the drivers side, and I don't have any of the plugs for the suspension....

Are the plugs for the suspension part of the PDI too?

I couldn't find it in the PDI but i'm curious about this as well

[Lonewolf]

Why would Subaru/Toyota go to all the trouble of spending the time and money to make, package, and insert these things into the glove box of every car if it's not required? Seems like a waste of money to me...a waste that the bean counters in the finance and accounting department would not have approved.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Please see Post 42 of this thread.

I get that the PDI document calls it a document, but a grommet is something you'd use to protect a cable or pipe from a sharp edge when it passes through a wall. This plugs a hole so nothing can pass through. Does it matter? Nope.

[sho]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Why would Subaru/Toyota go to all the trouble of spending the time and money to make, package, and insert these things into the glove box of every car if it's not required? Seems like a waste of money to me...a waste that the bean counters in the finance and accounting department would not have approved.

totally agree with you on that one and not to mention the instructions on the package and on the PDI too lol

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

I get that the PDI document calls it a document, but a grommet is something you'd use to protect a cable or pipe from a sharp edge when it passes through a wall. This plugs a hole so nothing can pass through. Does it matter? Nope.

Evidently, you do not know what a grommet is. If you look at Post 42, you will see in the diagram of the item that it is oblong in shape and open in the middle. That is where something "can pass through."

The picture in Post 104 is not very clear, but I believe the grommet on the right shows that it has an open center. If this part is a plug and not a grommet, please show me some evidence to support your claim.

Next Question: Why do forum jockeys insist on presenting themselves as know-it-alls? Isn't it enough for you to be annoying without the pretense of omniscience?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Evidently, you do not know what a grommet is. If you look at Post 42, you will see in the diagram of the item that it is oblong in shape and open in the middle. That is where something "can pass through."

The picture in Post 104 is not very clear, but I believe the grommet on the right shows that it has an open center. If this part is a plug and not a grommet, please show me some evidence to support your claim.

Next Question: Why do forum jockeys insist on presenting themselves as know-it-alls? Isn't it enough for you to be annoying without the pretense of omniscience?

PRETENSE? Bitch, I AM omniscient!

[nix]

This is one of the more confusing threads I've read in a while. There are two separate discussions going on (subframe tow holes/plugs and boot strut top holes/plugs).

It seems unlikely that the forward subframe holes would cause this, and if it is caused by splash back from the wheel arch, plugging the strut top hole doesn't look like it would help as the actual strut top will just sit full of water below it.

If it is coming in around the strut you might have to seal it somehow, maybe cut a big washer fom some rubber.

But I'd install the two sets of plugs and hit both areas with a pressure hose to see what happens.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Evidently, you do not know what a grommet is. If you look at Post 42, you will see in the diagram of the item that it is oblong in shape and open in the middle. That is where something "can pass through."

The picture in Post 104 is not very clear, but I believe the grommet on the right shows that it has an open center. If this part is a plug and not a grommet, please show me some evidence to support your claim.

Yes, because basing your argument on an outlined drawing on the computer makes you an expert on the part in question

Originally Posted by Marrk

Next Question: Why do forum jockeys insist on presenting themselves as know-it-alls? Isn't it enough for you to be annoying without the pretense of omniscience?

Right back at you, big guy.

Im done arguing semantics.