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05-01-2016, 06:22 PM

It locked in at 28.0 volts as fully charged and would drop down to the mod 20's on boost. Recovered within a minute back to 28. This was the first time using the batteries.

Sojhinn · 05-01-2016, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algreen

It locked in at 28.0 volts as fully charged and would drop down to the mod 20's on boost. Recovered within a minute back to 28. This was the first time using the batteries.

You're golden.

zc06_kisstherain · 05-02-2016, 11:14 AM

I am wondering Shiv updated new map for ESC?

Sojhinn · 05-02-2016, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

I am wondering Shiv updated new map for ESC?

Im going to be talking to him today... I'll let you know.

super josh · 05-02-2016, 04:05 PM

Not sure if this is the right place to post this?

In a bid to integrate the ESC into the car interior I decided to see if I could get it to work with the Torque app. that I usually have displayed on my Pioneer double DIN headunit.

Has the advantage that it displays max. and min. values and you can also log these values which should help understand when the dump pack is starting to degrade.

Josh

Sojhinn · 05-02-2016, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Im going to be talking to him today... I'll let you know.

No dice.

Sojhinn · 05-02-2016, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super josh

Not sure if this is the right place to post this?

In a bid to integrate the ESC into the car interior I decided to see if I could get it to work with the Torque app. that I usually have displayed on my Pioneer double DIN headunit.

Has the advantage that it displays max. and min. values and you can also log these values which should help understand when the dump pack is starting to degrade.

Josh

Wow that's awesome. How did you integrate it?

super josh · 05-02-2016, 05:35 PM

The elm327 Bluetooth dongle that we use with the torque app to connect to the OBD2 port has a facility to measure and report the battery voltage measured at the adapter (as well as the one measured at the ecu), I just re-purposed it to measure the ESC voltage by connecting the input to the ESC voltmeter to the dongle and reconfiguring the circuit slightly as it wasn't originally designed to measure 30 volts.

Then I created a custom PID in the torque app with an appropriate scalar and voila one ESC display on your phone or tablet.

I use the appradio unchained reloaded to get the torque app displayed on my Pioneer headunit.

What we need now is for Shiv and his team to provide this facility using the PROceed ecu and to output the data with a custom PID onto the car's canbus, then we could get the same functionality that I have shown without having to modify the bluetooth dongle.

If you need any specific details, then just ask

Josh

05-02-2016, 09:51 PM

Really impressive @superjosh!

05-03-2016, 01:00 AM

I know I'm getting ahead of myself since I've been boosted for all of a day, but has anyone considered running two ESC kits in parallel, joined by a y-pipe? What if the first kicked in at 70% throttle and the second at 100%? Another benefit is the reduced restriction on the intake plumbing when not on boost. I recognize this would require two dump packs, etc.

WNDSRFR · 05-03-2016, 08:57 AM

I've been thinking about this for years. It would be a great idea imo. The problem is the rarity of the Phantom.

Just thought about it..
Is that why Rob calls it "The Phantom"?

raven1231 · 05-03-2016, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algreen

I know I'm getting ahead of myself since I've been boosted for all of a day, but has anyone considered running two ESC kits in parallel, joined by a y-pipe? What if the first kicked in at 70% throttle and the second at 100%? Another benefit is the reduced restriction on the intake plumbing when not on boost. I recognize this would require two dump packs, etc.

Yes and it has been tested. I think the general consensus is the cost would not make sense for what this kit is meant to do. You'd be going into full time forced induction territory

keen as · 05-03-2016, 07:13 PM

A safety note for anyone converting wiring for RHD. Fire hazard fixed.

My car is RHD. I obtained a LHD ESC and extended the 12V power cables (12 gauge), by using 25A Anderson plugs. These are not good enough, they melted. Now I have installed a 50A Anderson Plug.

(I am not talking about the dump cables for the 24V system. Those cables are barely visible at the bottom left corner of one of the photos)

stevo585 · 05-03-2016, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keen as

A safety note for anyone converting wiring for RHD. Fire hazard fixed.

My car is RHD. I obtained a LHD ESC and extended the 12V power cables (12 gauge), by using 25A Anderson plugs. These are not good enough, they melted. Now I have installed a 50A Anderson Plug.

The system should be pulling around 160 amps. 4000W/24V = AMPS

05-02-2016, 04:05 PM	#887
super josh Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: Mazda mx5 Location: UK Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Integrating the ESC Voltmeter into the Torque app. Not sure if this is the right place to post this? In a bid to integrate the ESC into the car interior I decided to see if I could get it to work with the Torque app. that I usually have displayed on my Pioneer double DIN headunit. Has the advantage that it displays max. and min. values and you can also log these values which should help understand when the dump pack is starting to degrade. Josh

05-03-2016, 07:13 PM	#895
keen as Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 86 GT MT Location: Sydney Posts: 176 Thanks: 256 Thanked 80 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A safety note for anyone converting wiring for RHD. Fire hazard fixed. My car is RHD. I obtained a LHD ESC and extended the 12V power cables (12 gauge), by using 25A Anderson plugs. These are not good enough, they melted. Now I have installed a 50A Anderson Plug. (I am not talking about the dump cables for the 24V system. Those cables are barely visible at the bottom left corner of one of the photos) Attached Images Last edited by keen as; 05-03-2016 at 08:55 PM. Reason: clarify which cables

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05-01-2016, 06:22 PM	#883
Algreen Guest Posts: n/a Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s)	It locked in at 28.0 volts as fully charged and would drop down to the mod 20's on boost. Recovered within a minute back to 28. This was the first time using the batteries.

05-02-2016, 05:35 PM	#890
super josh Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: Mazda mx5 Location: UK Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The elm327 Bluetooth dongle that we use with the torque app to connect to the OBD2 port has a facility to measure and report the battery voltage measured at the adapter (as well as the one measured at the ecu), I just re-purposed it to measure the ESC voltage by connecting the input to the ESC voltmeter to the dongle and reconfiguring the circuit slightly as it wasn't originally designed to measure 30 volts. Then I created a custom PID in the torque app with an appropriate scalar and voila one ESC display on your phone or tablet. I use the appradio unchained reloaded to get the torque app displayed on my Pioneer headunit. What we need now is for Shiv and his team to provide this facility using the PROceed ecu and to output the data with a custom PID onto the car's canbus, then we could get the same functionality that I have shown without having to modify the bluetooth dongle. If you need any specific details, then just ask Josh

05-02-2016, 09:51 PM	#891
Algreen Guest Posts: n/a Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s)	Really impressive @superjosh!

05-03-2016, 01:00 AM	#892
Algreen Guest Posts: n/a Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s)	I know I'm getting ahead of myself since I've been boosted for all of a day, but has anyone considered running two ESC kits in parallel, joined by a y-pipe? What if the first kicked in at 70% throttle and the second at 100%? Another benefit is the reduced restriction on the intake plumbing when not on boost. I recognize this would require two dump packs, etc.

05-03-2016, 08:57 AM	#893
WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,186 Thanks: 233 Thanked 866 Times in 440 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been thinking about this for years. It would be a great idea imo. The problem is the rarity of the Phantom. Just thought about it.. Is that why Rob calls it "The Phantom"?

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