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Old 06-16-2015, 09:47 AM   #71
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The stock header lacks the proper collector and scavenging that the aftermarket ones do so it will limit your power. It's built for economy (cheap), not necessarily performance.

If you're going turbo, you'll already have a manifold as most of them all come with one or you'll need a turbo compatible one.

You won't want a cat in the header if you're turbo. It will get burned up pretty quick. You'll also want EL especially if going turbo. The difference on N/A is pretty minor with torque response in different areas, but turbo you'll start to see the gap between UEL and EL.
Yes this is what I was looking for, I know my kit comes with an exhaust manifold which is why I don't want to go out and spend 1k on a new header just to have to sell it again when the turbo kit is installed.
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Old 06-17-2015, 02:05 AM   #72
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Re transmission and header choice. I would recommend all AT owners get UEL where the power band starts at 4000 rpm. The powerband for EL headers usually starts around 4500, which is just too short for the long AT ratios. Catted EL can be as high as 5000rpm!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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Old 06-29-2015, 08:36 PM   #73
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Stock heat shielded catted header vs ceramic coated uncatted header temperature testing:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77107

Around 60F/33C difference in areas.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:54 PM   #74
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added some more oil temp vs oil weight data to first post

oil temp vs pressure data from hard use 0W20 vs 5W30
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Old 07-31-2015, 01:10 PM   #75
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This is a great read, answered a lot of my questions. Thanks steve99!
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:38 AM   #76
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i Was going to just have my mufflers redone like I did on my FRS 2013. But after read here that unless headers are changed iwould be getting much hp out of it I changed my mind.

Oh sorry I traded my 2013 for a 2016 FRS. THE DEALKER PAID ME TO TAKE IT.
Really, they gave me $22,000 for it paid my existing loan off..

Can anyone give me some info on the best n least expensive ways to pick up some HP with the 2016??

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Old 08-22-2015, 09:47 AM   #77
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i Was going to just have my mufflers redone like I did on my FRS 2013. But after read here that unless headers are changed iwould be getting much hp out of it I changed my mind.

Oh sorry I traded my 2013 for a 2016 FRS. THE DEALKER PAID ME TO TAKE IT.
Really, they gave me $22,000 for it paid my existing loan off..

Can anyone give me some info on the best n least expensive ways to pick up some HP with the 2016??

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ACE 4 2 1 header + delicious tuning I guess.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:05 AM   #78
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i Was going to just have my mufflers redone like I did on my FRS 2013. But after read here that unless headers are changed iwould be getting much hp out of it I changed my mind.

Oh sorry I traded my 2013 for a 2016 FRS. THE DEALKER PAID ME TO TAKE IT.
Really, they gave me $22,000 for it paid my existing loan off..

Can anyone give me some info on the best n least expensive ways to pick up some HP with the 2016??

Thanks,

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The exact same way everyone does on the 2013, 2014, and 2015s. Or really any modern NA vehicle.

Intake, exhaust, tune, and then if your fuel system has the headroom, E85.

All the same brands are still at the top of the heap, etc.
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:36 PM   #79
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i Was going to just have my mufflers redone like I did on my FRS 2013. But after read here that unless headers are changed iwould be getting much hp out of it I changed my mind.

Oh sorry I traded my 2013 for a 2016 FRS. THE DEALKER PAID ME TO TAKE IT.
Really, they gave me $22,000 for it paid my existing loan off..

Can anyone give me some info on the best n least expensive ways to pick up some HP with the 2016??

Thanks,

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The cheapest easiest HP you get NA is E85 fuel and a tune on a stock car. It good for about 20hp. and its totally reversible with no tools or swapping parts.

If you staying on petrol then Tune and catless header. any decent brand will do, the zillion dollar one,s get you a few more hp.

But on E85 you seem to do pretty well with any brand and even the zillion dollar ones gain very little anything over the normal brands on E85 fuel (tune of course)
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Old 08-23-2015, 05:50 PM   #80
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I would add to cheapest/easiest also drop-in aftermarket air filter alongside E85+tune. While it's not of 'no swapping parts', that swapping is simple enough, easily reversible and air-filter costs cheap enough to well fit 'entry set'.
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Well thanks guys. I am new at this, my son is not. Thanks Churchx I picked up a k&n. I'm not sure how much I want to do in hopes the 2017 FRS is like the pics I've seen?

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Does anyone know what size bolts to use between the OFT UEL and the stock overpipe?
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Does anyone know what size bolts to use between the OFT UEL and the stock overpipe?
it in the borloa header install guide attached to first post

M10 by 35 mm long, get lock washers as well
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