Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread - Page 496 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

shif7i7down · 08-01-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fenton

I've talked to Rob this week a couple times as we are testing something. Right now he is redoing his instructions and investigating some recent failures. Once he is done those two things he will start pushing out more kits. He really needs to make the install fool proof because even small mistakes can result in electrical shorts or wires getting melted.

When i hear you say stuff like "we are testing something"
I can't help but think that you're testing some new mods.

silent runner · 08-01-2014, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Wait, I'm confused. Is this still for the Camry from Hades or another make/model?

I think the Camry from "Hades", your refering to is that one that makes over 1000whp, based out of Toronto, Canada. Mine is another emerald green Camry, with a prototype Phantom ESC kit (with installation hard wardware designed by me), running around in Fenton and Rob's back-yard. This one would probably just shake you guys (running the ESC) up a bit, as it might hang far better than it should, with your FRS/BRZ's. If you don't have the ESC, watch out, it might just walk all over you!

fenton · 08-01-2014, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by silent runner

I think the Camry from "Hades", your refering to is that one that makes over 1000whp, based out of Toronto, Canada. Mine is another emerald green Camry, with a prototype Phantom ESC kit (with installation hard wardware designed by me), running around in Fenton and Rob's back-yard. This one would probably just shake you guys (running the ESC) up a bit, as it might hang far better than it should, with your FRS/BRZ's. If you don't have the ESC, watch out, it might just walk all over you!

I think he was asking because you mentioned something about Mazda.

silent runner · 08-01-2014, 08:50 PM

Got ya. I scavenged wrecking yards for pieces to build my prototype install with. Found a handy piece off of a Mazdaspeed 3. It has been so reliable that I've just kept it in place, and not replaced it with full out silicone "Frozen Boost" pieces yet. If your not expecting it, my little old Camry is, a little bit of a "bad" old girl to run into though.

Boofneenee · 08-01-2014, 11:13 PM

OK. So I got one and its on the car as of 30 minutes ago. The humidity is horrible, the tune is fresh the batteries are being reconditioned yet my jaw hurts from a smile plastered on my face. Am I dreaming or is this for real?

Target70 · 08-01-2014, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofneenee

OK. So I got one and its on the car as of 30 minutes ago. The humidity is horrible, the tune is fresh the batteries are being reconditioned yet my jaw hurts from a smile plastered on my face. Am I dreaming or is this for real?

you have been trying to decide about as long as I have been waiting to order and you still got one before me... Well at least another happy customer only confirms my choice. Hope you enjoy it.

Sojhinn · 08-01-2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofneenee

OK. So I got one and its on the car as of 30 minutes ago. The humidity is horrible, the tune is fresh the batteries are being reconditioned yet my jaw hurts from a smile plastered on my face. Am I dreaming or is this for real?

Welcome aboard. And a huge told you so to you sir.

Gums · 08-02-2014, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Boofneenee

OK. So I got one and its on the car as of 30 minutes ago. The humidity is horrible, the tune is fresh the batteries are being reconditioned yet my jaw hurts from a smile plastered on my face.

This sums up my experience perfectly

MmmHamSandwich · 08-02-2014, 01:49 AM

I have a point of confusion I am hoping kit owners can answer.

I hear people repeatedly state this kit "only makes boost at WOT." This makes no sense to me, as an FI setup that only engages the moment you hit full throttle would exhibit unsafe drivability. Is this truly how the kit operates or are these just uninformed people repeating the same banter over and over?

Can someone elaborate on when/how this kit engages boost. I assume it is in fact modifiable according to the tuning. The way people talk about it however, make it sound like an on off switch and not progressive like, say, every well tuned FI solution in existence. Are there really people who have it set up in such a fashion, and do they realize the hazards it presents?

enwave · 08-02-2014, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

I have a point of confusion I am hoping kit owners can answer.

I hear people repeatedly state this kit "only makes boost at WOT." This makes no sense to me, as an FI setup that only engages the moment you hit full throttle would exhibit unsafe drivability. Is this truly how the kit operates or are these just uninformed people repeating the same banter over and over?

Can someone elaborate on when/how this kit engages boost. I assume it is in fact modifiable according to the tuning. The way people talk about it however, make it sound like an on off switch and not progressive like, say, every well tuned FI solution in existence. Are there really people who have it set up in such a fashion, and do they realize the hazards it presents?

5psi of boost is hardly dangerous, unless you are an idiot. It is engaged by a mechanical switch bolted behind the throttle pedal. It does take about a half second to a second to ramp up, but it is more or less on/off. Every user of the system has it set up that way.

Urmyson · 08-02-2014, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

I have a point of confusion I am hoping kit owners can answer.

I hear people repeatedly state this kit "only makes boost at WOT." This makes no sense to me, as an FI setup that only engages the moment you hit full throttle would exhibit unsafe drivability. Is this truly how the kit operates or are these just uninformed people repeating the same banter over and over?

Can someone elaborate on when/how this kit engages boost. I assume it is in fact modifiable according to the tuning. The way people talk about it however, make it sound like an on off switch and not progressive like, say, every well tuned FI solution in existence. Are there really people who have it set up in such a fashion, and do they realize the hazards it presents?

It's uses a switch on the gas pedal. It works very well, when you floor it the car moves. Where before you just made a lot of engine noise and didn't go anywhere to fast. At least thats how it feels to me.

MmmHamSandwich · 08-02-2014, 02:20 AM

Glad y'all are having a blast with it. Unfortunately it sounds like it's not what I'm looking for.

fenton · 08-02-2014, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

Glad y'all are having a blast with it. Unfortunately it sounds like it's not what I'm looking for.

You are right. It is not progressive but it is also not intrusive. It basically feels like you have a bigger engine when you engage WOT.

It feels just like a low spooling turbo in that sense.

Many people have raised this concern but all those that have used the system can attest to its linear acceleration and smooth onset of boost.

DAEMANO · 08-02-2014, 03:44 AM

@MmmHamSandwich

How does it feel?

<80% Throttle = Like a NA car + e85, header & tune
>80% Throttle = Like a FI car with short boost lag (~500ms)

Corner Entry = <80% Throttle (NA car)
Corner Steady State = <80% Throttle (NA car)
Corner Exit = Rolling on to throttle while unwinding steering wheel (NA car transitioning to FI car)
Straight = >80% Throttle (FI car)

It's not complicated.

08-01-2014, 11:13 PM	#6935
Boofneenee Go-Kart Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Toyota Scion FRS Location: Yup Posts: 800 Thanks: 576 Thanked 309 Times in 188 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK. So I got one and its on the car as of 30 minutes ago. The humidity is horrible, the tune is fresh the batteries are being reconditioned yet my jaw hurts from a smile plastered on my face. Am I dreaming or is this for real? __________________ FRS Current mods: K&N air filter, OFT, OFH, berk high flow cat front pipe, Q300 exhaust, lighter wheels

08-02-2014, 01:49 AM	#6939
MmmHamSandwich You know you want it. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: RVA Posts: 705 Thanks: 160 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I have a point of confusion I am hoping kit owners can answer. I hear people repeatedly state this kit "only makes boost at WOT." This makes no sense to me, as an FI setup that only engages the moment you hit full throttle would exhibit unsafe drivability. Is this truly how the kit operates or are these just uninformed people repeating the same banter over and over? Can someone elaborate on when/how this kit engages boost. I assume it is in fact modifiable according to the tuning. The way people talk about it however, make it sound like an on off switch and not progressive like, say, every well tuned FI solution in existence. Are there really people who have it set up in such a fashion, and do they realize the hazards it presents? __________________ The Following User _________ Stay_Puft(09-13-2014) Says Thank You to MmmHamSandwich For This Useful Post:

08-02-2014, 02:20 AM	#6942
MmmHamSandwich You know you want it. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: RVA Posts: 705 Thanks: 160 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Glad y'all are having a blast with it. Unfortunately it sounds like it's not what I'm looking for. __________________ The Following User _________ Stay_Puft(09-13-2014) Says Thank You to MmmHamSandwich For This Useful Post:

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