2 1/2 weeks old and getting some nagging issues!

[sierra]

Originally Posted by cycleboy

That's great if you live somewhere this is possible. For us Californians, there are 11 stations listed in the entire state with E0. The closest to me is 110 miles one way, so that's not happening.

There are loads of posts on using 2T to shut it up when E0 isn't available, until they get a fix.

Originally Posted by sierra

There are loads of posts on using 2T to shut it up when E0 isn't available, until they get a fix.

2T?

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[sierra]

Originally Posted by arashishozen

2T?

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2 stroke oil. High quality low or zero ash 1:1000

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by arashishozen

2T?

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He means two stroke oil which gets poured into the fuel tank before fill up.

Note that these aren't "fixes" per se, rather band aids so your car doesn't make noise, and they aren't guaranteed to work, members have reported both that the two stroke oil and E0 did not get rid of the chirps, they are the minority but take everything with a grain of salt.

The car was supposed to be designed to run on readily available fuel, changing the fuel you put into the take doesn't 'fix' anything. The design chirps, it wasn't enough to bother me (believe me, many would be complaining with the noise I "suffered" so I wasn't one of the lucky ones) so I left it alone, after 10k miles it went silent, just crossed 16k trouble free miles.

Wouldn't that be hard on the cat? I know my 200 xcw ktm 2 stroke smokes allot. ( never heard it by 2T before)

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

He means two stroke oil which gets poured into the fuel tank before fill up.

Note that these aren't "fixes" per se, rather band aids so your car doesn't make noise, and they aren't guaranteed to work, members have reported both that the two stroke oil and E0 did not get rid of the chirps, they are the minority but take everything with a grain of salt.

The car was supposed to be designed to run on readily available fuel, changing the fuel you put into the take doesn't 'fix' anything. The design chirps, it wasn't enough to bother me (believe me, many would be complaining with the noise I "suffered" so I wasn't one of the lucky ones) so I left it alone, after 10k miles it went silent, just crossed 16k trouble free miles.

I got used to the noise and figured it wasn't causing anything as of right now. Though as a preference I prefer E0 but only get it if I have some extra moolah for it.

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[sierra]

Originally Posted by arashishozen

Wouldn't that be hard on the cat? I know my 200 xcw ktm 2 stroke smokes allot. ( never heard it by 2T before)

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Zero ash has nothing to to block the cat and it's 1:1000 not 1:25 Less than a teaspoonful in a gallon.

I had never heard of it called 2T before either but it seems common in the US.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by arashishozen

Wouldn't that be hard on the cat? I know my 200 xcw ktm 2 stroke smokes allot. ( never heard it by 2T before)

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Most claim it will do no harm, I haven't seen any proof that leaves me satisfied so personally I wouldn't touch it even if my cricket chorus drowned out the radio (I'd probably take it in for warranty at that point). Odds are you'll be ok using it, but I'm in the minority saying don't touch it. Rotary owners have used it to prolong their engine life, to mixed results, you can search and see if they have any issues that would carry over.

Originally Posted by sierra

I had never heard of it called 2T before either but it seems common in the US.

Me neither, only on this forum and I've known some diehard 2 stroke dirtbike fans.

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Most claim it will do no harm, I haven't seen any proof that leaves me satisfied so personally I wouldn't touch it even if my cricket chorus drowned out the radio (I'd probably take it in for warranty at that point). Odds are you'll be ok using it, but I'm in the minority saying don't touch it. Rotary owners have used it to prolong their engine life, to mixed results, you can search and see if they have any issues that would carry over.



Me neither, only on this forum and I've known some diehard 2 stroke dirtbike fans.

Now you know one more.

I'm gonna stay away from oil in the gas. Too many fouled plugs in the past to thank for that. Lol

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[Suberman]

Oil in the gas can take out your cat. Don't do it.

Its nothing to do with the oil, diesels use a cat. It's the additives. Never use gas engine oil in a diesel. The other way around is ok. Neither belongs in the fuel tank.

[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by 86viper

There is your problem right there. With 1000miles on the clock it should be seeing redline often. Thats the whole point.

The only issue of yours that i have had is the rev drop. Its a pretty common known issue but in the grand scheme of things isn't too annoying.

I've been driving more spirited as of late, things seem to be leveling out a bit, fuel pump chirp is really intermittent, I'll go two days without it (no fill ups) and then one day it'll do it for an hour, then stop. Kind of weird, I blast my music so the noises are irrelevant mostly but since I know they are there, my brain won't stop telling me "hey, these noises are there"

Originally Posted by tiz22

Untrue.

Mine dips to ~600RPMs all the time with absolutely no fan/AC/heat on whatsoever

I have recorded it in every possible setting and it has no affect. If you read up on the forums a lot of people have the issue regardless of AC setting

+1 I run w/o A/C at night all the time and it'll do it at stop lights.

Originally Posted by Mikem53

You need some more miles on your car.. Things do smooth out some over time. I get the idle dip under certain conditions, but it's normal. You are overly aware of these issues being a new car and all.
Everything you mentioned seems to be on par with what others experience.
Taking a list to Toyota and demanding they fix everything may not be the best plan. I would give the car and yourself some time to break in before you go getting yourself all aggravated by visiting the dealer..
Its human nature to focus on everything that seems wrong.. But the more time spent driving it and enjoying all that is good... Will let the other issues either work themselves out or give you time to realize what is normal for this car..

Noted and I am starting to see that.

Originally Posted by cooldandani

hey there!!! ive had the same issues in my 2013 the way the rpm dip was fixed in mine was by buying a drop in filter, got the k&n drop in filter and car runs smoother and no more rpm dip. hope this helps!!

Looks like my problem is solved! Was gonna purchase the Perrin drop in this week

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Trmx2

Any known fixes or TSB's that they will fix and honor without complaint?

You need to discuss this with your dealer, or any competent dealer. No amount of internet advice will help you document this with your dealer.

But to answer your question: YES all those can be fixed at the dealer under warranty with TSBs. Some aren't a proper fix, just FYI.

-alex

[czy]

Originally Posted by Trmx2

+1 I run w/o A/C at night all the time and it'll do it at stop lights.

wait! my 2013 FR-S idles at 700 RPM all time. how come 800 is a dip?

[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by mav1178

You need to discuss this with your dealer, or any competent dealer. No amount of internet advice will help you document this with your dealer.

But to answer your question: YES all those can be fixed at the dealer under warranty with TSBs. Some aren't a proper fix, just FYI.

-alex

Went to my dealer earlier this week for an oil change, I WANTED the oil change at 1200 miles, I had about 3/4 of the members on this forum recommend it after break-in. Guy told me he never heard of anyone wanting to change the oil after break-in so soon. He actually tried to get me to not do it.

I then told him about all the TSB's, guy seemed like he had no clue what I was talking about, I don't even think he knew anything to be honest. Some Jamaican dude.

This was at Autonation in Weston, Florida if anyone lives close to there.

In my years of owning cars, at least down here, I feel that nearly all of the dealerships know NOTHING about what they are doing. I think it's a Florida thing.

I tried discussing most of these issues with him and he seemed like he had no clue what I was talking about.......then they couldn't reproduce the fuel chirp, so they didn't fix anything. Told them to change all my fluids, he said they wouldn't do that, he didn't even know what kind of LSD fluid the car took.....I was not happy. I got my oil change and that's it.