FRS fire sale?

[theparagon]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Oh, I understand that. But some people may think that "no haggle" pricing means everyone will pay the same price regardless. As others have stated, these car ads are mostly in snow/rain belt states which probably affects prices. When I bought my 2016 in October last year, even left over 2015s were at MSRP around here. I usually buy at the end of the model year (e.g., 2015s @ September/October 2015) to get a discount but due to my DD being totaled I bought my 2016 at the beginning of the MY. Since it was the same price as the remaining MY2015s, I didn't try too hard to find a leftover car.

Many of them are in Maryland or Virginia, which are not in the snow or rain belt.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The MT vs AT sales can be very regional as well as the prices. The ATs seem to sell way better the further north you go. My dealer said they sold 4 AT to every MT and since they only sold 12 total that really means something.




LOL! Can't get one in my city no matter how much you will pay. The Scion/Toyota dealer has a iM and two tCs in stock and that is it. They said they are only even ordering a couple of 17s.
http://www.sciontown.com/inventory/new

LOL where do you live???????

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

LOL where do you live???????

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So how did you get your hot lava XD lol ?

[airjonny]

Are the dealers still held down by policies of a dead entity? What are the repercussions of a Toyota dealer ignoring no haggle at his point?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by airjonny

Are the dealers still held down by policies of a dead entity? What are the repercussions of a Toyota dealer ignoring no haggle at his point?

The same as it was before, a wag of the finger.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by airjonny

Are the dealers still held down by policies of a dead entity? What are the repercussions of a Toyota dealer ignoring no haggle at his point?

Scion/Toyota has said on their website that Pure Price will remain until the end. Now how they plan to enforce that is anybody's guess.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

So how did you get your hot lava XD lol ?

I bought it when they were still selling them.

[DarkPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

How about a hot Hot Lava?

Aw see, that just hurts my heart right there. Too close!

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

So...


I wonder when the class action lawsuit is going to be filed by people who "had to" buy under Scion "no haggle" pricing....

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

Technically you're still not haggling.

@Tcoat has a good explanation of pure pricing (here's hoping pure pricing dies with scion) The price advertised is the price you pay, there is and will be no class action lawsuit, because they are still in the grounds of selling the vehicle under what is advertised online

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

@Tcoat has a good explanation of pure pricing (here's hoping pure pricing dies with scion) The price advertised is the price you pay, there is and will be no class action lawsuit, because they are still in the grounds of selling the vehicle under what is advertised online

Pure Price will indeed die with Scion. Toyota has already made the statement that PP and monospec will end after the 17 model year.


It surprises me that after all this time people still do not understand the concept of Pure Pricing.
The PP system has nothing to do with the MSRP (Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price) or what the dealers could or did charge for the cars. Pure pricing simply meant that all advertising and prices associated with each individual car had the be the same. They could not advertise it as $27K and then when you walked in say "well it is actually $29K". If the MSRP was $27K and they wanted to sell white ones at $24K and black ones at $30 they were free to do so as long as all of the shown prices said that. The dealers were permitted to charge whatever the market in their region would stand.
The whole Scion no haggle system was intended to make the buying process easier for "younger inexperienced" buyers not as a means for the dealer to make more money. This however backfired a bit in those areas where the car was routinely selling in high volumes since the dealers did indeed boost the price to make more money. Reportedly there were dealers that would flex on the price but they ran the real risk of Scion pulling their dealership since it was strictly against the rules. Any creative dealer would of course find ways around that rule anyway. I got about $3K over bluebook value for my trade in and another $3K worth of free extras on the car since my dealer would not budge on the price of the car.

[Timmy_Jones]

16' BRZ Limited would still go for 29-30k in the Southern ME/NH region.

Toyota dealership has a dark blue FRS for sale. Probably a demo car and price is still around 25k.

[kmbkk]

My local dealer is offering me $4K over trade-in value ($19,175) to get a new one, but at msrp.

[billwot]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It surprises me that after all this time people still do not understand the concept of Pure Pricing.
The PP system has nothing to do with the MSRP (Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price) or what the dealers could or did charge for the cars. Pure pricing simply meant that all advertising and prices associated with each individual car had the be the same. They could not advertise it as $27K and then when you walked in say "well it is actually $29K". If the MSRP was $27K and they wanted to sell white ones at $24K and black ones at $30 they were free to do so as long as all of the shown prices said that. The dealers were permitted to charge whatever the market in their region would stand.