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Turbowned · 09-07-2012, 01:43 PM

Hey, it could be worse; Mercedes-Benzes have a left-to-right motion to change gears with the manual mode... you wanna talk about counter-intuitive? I don't know what they were thinking. Never much cared for M-B anyway...

Kurenai · 09-07-2012, 01:58 PM

I too would like to know if a way of swapping up/down shift is found...

I found + towards driver very intuitive on my MR2-Spyder... and I keep doing it wrong on my FR-S..

.. I kinda feel like James May and the dogleg 1st gear when i do it.

01s0uljah · 09-17-2012, 11:19 AM

Fixed..

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17018

carbonBLUE · 09-17-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arghx7

It could be done if you reprogrammed one or more of the control modules. Or maybe if you repinned an electrical connector.

Why is it like that in the first place? It's probably because that's what their customer clinics told them the expected buyer wanted. Or maybe they didn't bother doing any evaluations. Nobody actually uses manual shifting functions on a regular basis. They try it out a couple times and then forget about it.

A lot of people on this forum only drive in manual mode everyday...

Azzaboynt · 09-18-2012, 01:38 AM

Ummm.... If you were in a stick shift car, then under braking you will be both pulling and pushing the stick as you go down the gears...

It would be nice though if there was a standard for the autos across all manufacturers and models. Makes the transition to new cars a lot eaiser.

Point in case, yesterday I had to jump in and out multiple times and drive a VW polo, and a Toyota Corolla. Given that the indicators for each car was on the opposite sides to each other, it was a pain in the azz. Towards the end of the day I figured it was just easier when I needed to indicate, to hit both left and right hand stalks. Indicating to turn with wipers...

Allankh · 10-02-2012, 04:24 AM

Instead of swapping the wires or reprogramming the ECU
Try to reprogram you're brain, it's cheaper, faster... and easier

SkullWorks · 10-02-2012, 01:50 PM

a couple of things.

this is an AUTOMATIC you are talking about, it is not related in any way shape of form to a sequential roller barrel actuated race box, please remove all such thoughts from your head.

YOU ARE WRONG...let that sink in....better than 75% of all auto boxes are forward to shift....as are most upshifts in what has been standard for years....the 5 speed h pattern gearbox...1st UP 3rd UP 5th UP...only second and fourth are down,,,,in down shifting it is a split...

Automatics have been manually selectable for some time with the standard

P
R
N
D
3
2
1

pattern...and since you are driving an automatic...not a manual....it makes far more sense to maintain this same pattern...because this is a street car,

if you want a reverse manual selection, switch the wires and be done with it,

if you want a manual transmission....well....you paid extra for an auto...so obviously you didn't...

09-18-2012, 01:38 AM	#33
Azzaboynt Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Red 86 GTS Auto Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 33 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ummm.... If you were in a stick shift car, then under braking you will be both pulling and pushing the stick as you go down the gears... It would be nice though if there was a standard for the autos across all manufacturers and models. Makes the transition to new cars a lot eaiser. Point in case, yesterday I had to jump in and out multiple times and drive a VW polo, and a Toyota Corolla. Given that the indicators for each car was on the opposite sides to each other, it was a pain in the azz. Towards the end of the day I figured it was just easier when I needed to indicate, to hit both left and right hand stalks. Indicating to turn with wipers... __________________ Current drive: 2012 Toyota 86 GTS

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Kurenai Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Hot Lava 6AT Location: United States Posts: 53 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I too would like to know if a way of swapping up/down shift is found... I found + towards driver very intuitive on my MR2-Spyder... and I keep doing it wrong on my FR-S.. .. I kinda feel like James May and the dogleg 1st gear when i do it.

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01s0uljah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: SWP Subaru BRZ Sport-Tech 6AT Location: Toronto Posts: 218 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fixed.. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17018

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SkullWorks Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: SSM LT MT BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 803 Thanked 754 Times in 328 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	a couple of things. this is an AUTOMATIC you are talking about, it is not related in any way shape of form to a sequential roller barrel actuated race box, please remove all such thoughts from your head. YOU ARE WRONG...let that sink in....better than 75% of all auto boxes are forward to shift....as are most upshifts in what has been standard for years....the 5 speed h pattern gearbox...1st UP 3rd UP 5th UP...only second and fourth are down,,,,in down shifting it is a split... Automatics have been manually selectable for some time with the standard P R N D 3 2 1 pattern...and since you are driving an automatic...not a manual....it makes far more sense to maintain this same pattern...because this is a street car, if you want a reverse manual selection, switch the wires and be done with it, if you want a manual transmission....well....you paid extra for an auto...so obviously you didn't...

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