Running but going nowhere.

[GotBRZ1691]

My clutch is pretty much burnt up after only 23,000 miles. My car is having transmission issues which I believe led to some life lose on the clutch. I am not a "Newb" manual driver. My previous Subarus both saw over 80,000 miles on stock clutch and my driving style has not changed.

I learned to drive a manual on a toyota pickup, not even called the tacoma yet, and on a 1989 Mazda rx-7. Destroyed a clutch on both so don't feel bad.


Did you get your car at San Rafael Mazda Subaru By chance?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by billwot

Just a lack of skill, or inexperience, is not likely to cause that kind of premature failure. He had to be doing something really wrong .......... continously ride the clutch, it would be difficult to wear out a clutch in such a short period of time.

That would be my guess as to what happened.

That's an easy fix ...... have the clutch replaced, then ..... just don't put your foot on the clutch pedal, unless you're going to push it .....



humfrz

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

AHMEN to that!
I have been crapped on more then once even here because I actually have somebody else do my maintenance and other work.
What am I gonna do, lay in the snow and change my oil because I don't think the guy at the dealership that does it 30 or 40 times a day knows what he is doing?????

I prefer to do oil changes myself, as I do have an insulated garage, and it doesn't take much time. I did my intake and exhaust myself. Was planning on doing my coilovers and the rear LCA's myself, but given the lack of time I'm going to have (Currently working in Alberta, home on 21 Feb, working in Markham from 22 Feb to 27 Feb, but staying at a hotel, off to Alberta from 1 Mar to 6 Mar, then no idea where I'm going to be working from there), I decided I'll let a shop do it. Plus that saves my mother from hearing my friends and I curse up a storm and less blood on the walls and fridge from drinking beer, thinning our blood out and scraping our knuckles trying to unstick bolts.

[austin_kw]

Look at it this way... it's an excuse to install an upgraded Stage 2 clutch!

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

AHMEN to that!
I have been crapped on more then once even here because I actually have somebody else do my maintenance and other work.
What am I gonna do, lay in the snow and change my oil because I don't think the guy at the dealership that does it 30 or 40 times a day knows what he is doing?????

Ya, I hear that .....!!

Back in the day, it was easier to change the oil. Shimmy under the car, no jack stands or ramps needed, cause the cars were about 16" off the ground.

Unscrew the drain plug, let the oil run out onto and into the gravel driveway .... hey, we sprayed oil on the gravel driveways to keep down the dust anyway....

Open up 4 quarts of oil (30 weight for summer; 20 weight for winter).

Screw the drain plug back in (no need to replace the washer, they lasted for many, many oil changes).

Pour in new oil, no need for a funnel, the filler opening was high up on the engine.

What about the oil filter ??..... there was no oil filter .....


humfrz

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Ya, I hear that .....!!

Back in the day, it was easier to change the oil. Shimmy under the car, no jack stands or ramps needed, cause the cars were about 16" off the ground.

Unscrew the drain plug, let the oil run out onto and into the gravel driveway .... hey, we sprayed oil on the gravel driveways to keep down the dust anyway....

Open up 4 quarts of oil (30 weight for summer; 20 weight for winter).

Screw the drain plug back in (no need to replace the washer, they lasted for many, many oil changes).

Pour in new oil, no need for a funnel, the filler opening was high up on the engine.

What about the oil filter ??..... there was no oil filter .....


humfrz

It's not 1922 anymore, old man.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

It's not 1922 anymore, old man.

Ohhhhhhh ............


humfrz

[stugray]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

AHMEN to that!
I have been crapped on more then once even here because I actually have somebody else do my maintenance and other work.
What am I gonna do, lay in the snow and change my oil because I don't think the guy at the dealership that does it 30 or 40 times a day knows what he is doing?????

I just went through this with the 18 yr old.
He has my 99 Toyota Solara and it was 80,000 miles overdue for a timing belt.
So we decided to tackle it ourselves to save $$, learn about how the car works, and father-son bonding.

It took us 4 days to do a ~8 hour job, the first time.
The second time was only ~5 hours (we got it right that time).

And even with the comfort of a giant empty garage and tools galore, I still spent $100 on new tools I didnt have (the horror!!).

In the end, we saved ~$800. Was it worth it?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Lazy fucker.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep! More money than ambition these days.

Haha... Perfectly ok but still funny.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Bergen23

It's not 1922 anymore, old man.

Hey now, it wasn't that long ago. We had a designated oil patch behind our shed in the late 70s.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by stugray

I just went through this with the 18 yr old.
He has my 99 Toyota Solara and it was 80,000 miles overdue for a timing belt.
So we decided to tackle it ourselves to save $$, learn about how the car works, and father-son bonding.

It took us 4 days to do a ~8 hour job, the first time.
The second time was only ~5 hours (we got it right that time).

And even with the comfort of a giant empty garage and tools galore, I still spent $100 on new tools I didnt have (the horror!!).

In the end, we saved ~$800. Was it worth it?

yes. next?

[Eski]

i would be interested to know what the OP did to cause the clutch to burn out. let us know if you figure it out.

don't let the nay sayers get you down, try until you succeed or go bankrupt on clutches.

[MidnightRunner]

Originally Posted by stugray

In the end, we saved ~$800. Was it worth it?

I'd say it was. Maybe not so much on the financial side, but I remember those times with my dad. We'd talk about ex girlfriends and dumb shit we'd never talk about on a regular basis. After 18 I was out of my parent's house, so if working on his car gave you both an excuse to spend time together so be it.

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[billwot]

Originally Posted by stugray

I agree. I have never fried a clutch in such short order.
Even with zero experience, I find it hard to believe you can kill a clutch that quickly without noticing.
Did you smell something similar to burning carpet every time you got out of the car?
That's what I would expect if it was actually driver error.


Billwot:


How about a shot with 2 914's in it?

I taught my son & daughter in the BRZ and the son has driven the 914.
If you can learn to drive stick in a 914, then you can drive ANY stick.
(for those who dont know: the stock 914 is rated as one of the worst shifting configurations EVER)

Absolutely! I bought my 2 daughters a '70 and a '71. Shifting to any gear was really just a guessing game. Porsche made significant improvements starting in '73.