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Old 01-03-2015, 12:40 AM   #29
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Wish I was more computer literate and I would post up some 2013 Limiteds with low less than 10k miles for under 17 that weren't wrecks. But just for comparison why in the world would someone pay 24.5 for a 2013 or 26k for a 2014 when here the advertised price is 27093 for one that lists for 29089 new for a 2015. $2500 less for a car that is used and three years old or $1000 less for one that is 2 years old. The ones I am talking about are all new 2015 Limiteds with 6MT actually you can google Hudiburgh Subaru in Okc and look for your self. Just my 2 cents
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I think you'll find if you called and asked, the actual prices for those new BRZ limiteds will all be above the MSRP. Mine was. Dealers add extra to the prices due to demand.

In any case, we're talking apples to oranges here, as mine is a modified, developed 2013, with only 5000 miles, and over 20 grand of extras.

You couldn't come close to buying a new car and making the same changes as my car for $27,000, or even $37,000.

If you feel differently, please go do so.
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:41 AM   #31
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I've never had an issue selling a car for $500 on paper if that's what the buyer wants. Ultimately the buyer takes the risk if the dollar amount exchanged is much more than the reported sale price.
Not sure where you live, but here it doesn't matter what you write in the box. They compare that price to what average retail is and it must be close or they take the higher of the two. Salvage or damaged cars would be somewhat exempt but not completely. Makes both the buyer and the seller criminals as well.

Good luck with the sale OP!
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:48 AM   #32
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I'm just looking for a nice, normal, car sale.



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Not sure where you live, but here it doesn't matter what you write in the box. They compare that price to what average retail is and it must be close or they take the higher of the two. Salvage or damaged cars would be somewhat exempt but not completely. Makes both the buyer and the seller criminals as well.

Good luck with the sale OP!
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:40 AM   #33
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I think you'll find if you called and asked, the actual prices for those new BRZ limiteds will all be above the MSRP. Mine was. Dealers add extra to the prices due to demand.

In any case, we're talking apples to oranges here, as mine is a modified, developed 2013, with only 5000 miles, and over 20 grand of extras.

You couldn't come close to buying a new car and making the same changes as my car for $27,000, or even $37,000.

If you feel differently, please go do so.
Nope thats the price plus what they call a DOC fee $249. Heck the salesman is a member of the forum with a turbo BRZ. And maybe new they got extra due to demand but the demand of a new sportscar is over. And yes yours is modified but that doesn't mean that there are more buyers.
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:45 AM   #34
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I'm just looking for a nice, normal, car sale.
Me also!! Most car sales, unless you just walk-in and buy it are open to negotiation at least when I go to sell something I ask more than I expect to take because I know its going to be a negotiation. But thanks I now understand that you expect to get exactly that price.
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:30 PM   #35
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My car had a sticker with MSRP price, and then the dealer tacked on another 3 grand "just because they could".

I should have waited, but I was trading in a car with issues and didn't want to drive the old car (tires were corded, probably wouldn't have made it home-needed a bunch of money thrown at it NOW).

That however is not factoring into what I'm asking for the car, I just think the price I set is a good, very low price for what someone is getting for the car and all the work I did.

It's more than a car with a lot of bolt-ons, it's "developed" with an aim towards running on road race courses/track days/AX, and do those things with no heat issues or issues of any kind. I made changes to the front and the skidplate so air exits better, and set the fans so they stay on ALL the time, so no melting fans or anything. Radiator was custom mounted 2" forward for extra clearance and no heat issues.

I got all the "premium" parts (FB premium turbo kit with V-band clamps and GTX2867r turbo upgrade, bigger Tial wastegate and BOV), FULL 3" front/overpipe to Tomei 80r exhaust. Diff bushings, big clutch.

Hydra standalone was $2000, Hydramist meth injection was another G.

All the performance mods are such that the car has the potential to make a LOT more power, it has the bigger fuel pump, bigger injectors, bigger turbo. With a wastegate spring change and a tune it'll make 350whp on 91 with the methanol injection, and 450whp on E85.

I can drive to the track, run all day, have fun, and drive home.

I had plans to go to "stage 2" and "stage 3", and if I don't buy the Pantera I'm probably going to send the car off to Element Tuning for a 9k rpm monster racing engine.
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:11 PM   #36
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This is the car to buy if you wanted to spend 27k but I am only a 21k type of guy !!!! So bump
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:25 PM   #37
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Thanks for the bump!

The price is slightly negotiable, but just slightly, very slightly.

If it doesn't sell, no harm, no foul.

Funny thing is the BRZ is probably faster than the Pantera race car that I'm buying.
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Old 01-05-2015, 12:57 AM   #38
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No doubt the BZR will run circles around the Pantera is a with many parts to wear out not to mention that old gate style shifter and ZF trans
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Old 01-05-2015, 08:44 AM   #39
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I'm into mid-engined cars. I have a thing for gearboxes too.

Knowing that I'll be owning my own ZF transaxle makes me feel all good inside. Same exact gearbox used in the GT40. I think a modern version is used on the new Ford GT's as well.

In 5-10 years though, the Pantera will be worth more. I told myself my next purchase was going to be something that appreciated over time, not depreciated.
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Your right it should go up with time! I had mine for ten years (72 model) from 2000-2010 and it went up zip, 22k to 22k
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:44 AM   #41
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Times are different now.
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Bump. I also pmed you. Need a sound clip if you don't mind. I can't find anyone turbo with the type 80r.
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