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Anaxilus · 10-18-2013, 10:26 PM

FIAT is doing 240 (and 260lb/ft) w/ 1.7L. Really not that big of deal at all. Rumour has it they limited output at the time due to weaknesses in their DCT.

Demandred7 · 10-19-2013, 11:25 AM

How about the engine/powertrain in this:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/toy...-and-info-news

czar07 · 10-21-2013, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Your point?

You are questioning the reliability of a 1.6l 240hp motor...i am pointing to a 350hp 2.0l..anyway

Pete156 · 10-21-2013, 01:46 AM

Nice motor.

Hood scoop for the 86?

Hanni_0176 · 10-21-2013, 02:04 AM

Meh... I'd rather just boost my 2.0L

Atropine · 10-21-2013, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anaxilus

Why? The Formula Atlantic 4AGE 1.6L did 240hp NA decades ago. If they can get 100hp/L in theory, that means only 8psi to hit 240 from 160. A few of the Toyota 4AGs were modeled on the old Cosworth 1.6Ls. BMW made a boosted 1.5L dropping over 1,400hp.

BMW M12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Making power is easy, any manufacturer can do it. If they don't it's because they choose to pursue some other performance metric.

I was going to bring this engine up as well (The Formula Atlantic).

My S/C MR2 was a 1.6 (4AGZE) and I had a legit 180 wheel HP, So I would guess around 200 at crank...
Why is this relevant?
My S/C MR2 was made in 1988.

With forged internals and an aluminum block, you can do amazing things.
Heck...the S2000 was 2.0 liter with 240 hp...

So yeah, its certainly doable.

Reliability and mass production and cost...

That old adage...

Fast, inexpensive, reliable....Pick two.

reni · 10-21-2013, 03:32 AM

There is already a FA20 DIT in production, which makes 300PS (~296hp)

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http://www.subaru.jp/legacy/touringw....0-gt-dit.html

So 240PS from the 1.6L version seems about right.

Wise · 10-21-2013, 07:16 AM

utekineir · 10-21-2013, 09:46 AM

looks like they addressed the claims of nowhere to put a turbo

chulooz · 10-21-2013, 10:05 AM

The 1.6DIT was released and on display over a year ago, more details to come.

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10-18-2013, 10:26 PM	#29
Anaxilus Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: They have four wheels Location: United States Posts: 482 Thanks: 59 Thanked 199 Times in 114 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FIAT is doing 240 (and 260lb/ft) w/ 1.7L. Really not that big of deal at all. Rumour has it they limited output at the time due to weaknesses in their DCT.

10-19-2013, 11:25 AM	#30
Demandred7 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2018 Camry XSE V6 Location: Breslau, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 1,041 Thanked 367 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How about the engine/powertrain in this: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/toy...-and-info-news

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Hanni_0176 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 10 Series MT Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 339 Thanks: 115 Thanked 231 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Meh... I'd rather just boost my 2.0L

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reni Nobody beats the B[I\|R]Z Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: shopping cart i stole from walmart Location: somewhere Posts: 939 Thanks: 262 Thanked 1,145 Times in 456 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is already a FA20 DIT in production, which makes 300PS (~296hp) [ame="http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%90%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BBFA%E5%9E%8B%E3 %82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%B3"]ã‚¹ãƒãƒ«ãƒ»FAåž‹ã‚¨ãƒ³ã‚¸ãƒ³ - Wikipedia[/ame] http://www.subaru.jp/legacy/touringw....0-gt-dit.html So 240PS from the 1.6L version seems about right.

10-21-2013, 09:46 AM	#37
utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	looks like they addressed the claims of nowhere to put a turbo

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chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The 1.6DIT was released and on display over a year ago, more details to come.

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