forced induction noob question.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by sosick

Sick im headed up there j4. U think fbm has most hp on paper?

All the turbo kits can make similar hp on paper, but will need proper tuning to make the number.

[AVOturboworld]

Originally Posted by sosick

Fbm kit comes with all of that and the dyno says 280.

And we've reached 280whp on our stage 1 without touching the injectors and fuel pump, but had to put in a clutch because it started slipping at those power levels.

Turbocharger kits (and superchargers as well) are not locked in to a specific power level. Local variations in gas quality and altitude will change whatever figure is quoted "on the box", then mix in whatever dyno is used.

Nearly every kit on the market can probably reach the max hp and/or torque available on pump gas.

[lexusb3]

Fa20club 286whp on stock exhaust on only 5psi right out the box...

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Nearly every kit on the market can probably reach the max hp and/or torque available on pump gas.

i completely disagree with that statement. i'm not aware of anyone running 20+psi (or coming anywhere near maxing out any of the common turbos) on pump gas.

[AVOturboworld]

Originally Posted by jamesm

i completely disagree with that statement. i'm not aware of anyone running 20+psi (or coming anywhere near maxing out any of the common turbos) on pump gas.

Probably didn't define it clear enough - nearly any of the kits can max out what the FA20 can do on pump gas. Whether it's reached at 6psi or 12psi, there's just going to be a max "limit" to what the 2.0-liter 12.5:1 FA20 motor can do (unless it's built for boost) on pump 91~93 octane gas.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by jamesm

i completely disagree with that statement. i'm not aware of anyone running 20+psi (or coming anywhere near maxing out any of the common turbos) on pump gas.

And I wouldn't expect to see anyone at 20+ PSI on pump without meth on a stock block. You're asking for knock at that kind of PSI with only pump gas. Perhaps with a built block you'll see it...but more likely on a built block with low compression pistons.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by jamesm

i completely disagree with that statement. i'm not aware of anyone running 20+psi (or coming anywhere near maxing out any of the common turbos) on pump gas.

Octane and knock are the limiting factors, not PSI.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Octane and knock are the limiting factors, not PSI.

I'm aware of that, but you need to run big pressure ratios to max out any of these turbos. No one is making 450whp at 12psi on a 2871, either. The point is the same.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Probably didn't define it clear enough - nearly any of the kits can max out what the FA20 can do on pump gas. Whether it's reached at 6psi or 12psi, there's just going to be a max "limit" to what the 2.0-liter 12.5:1 FA20 motor can do (unless it's built for boost) on pump 91~93 octane gas.

Ok you were talking about maxing the FA20, I thought you meant maxing out the turbos/blowers in the kits. My apologies.

[sosick]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

And we've reached 280whp on our stage 1 without touching the injectors and fuel pump, but had to put in a clutch because it started slipping at those power levels.

Turbocharger kits (and superchargers as well) are not locked in to a specific power level. Local variations in gas quality and altitude will change whatever figure is quoted "on the box", then mix in whatever dyno is used.

Nearly every kit on the market can probably reach the max hp and/or torque available on pump gas.

I see

[FRS-Jonathan]

I' d say PTuning is the way to go if I ever save up enough that's what I'm goin with

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by King Tut

There is way too much misinformation in this thread. Can a moderator just delete this thread?

Thats about 98% of the threads lately. But don't quote me on that %.
I am not required to backup my statements.

[sosick]

Anyways after everything im picking up a fa20club kit