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Old 05-29-2013, 06:51 PM   #29
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I am waiting. Not necessarily for the STI model, but some sort of Spec B/STI/more powerful model. I really want a sports car to replace the Acura RSX-S I got rid of (driving an Xterra right now), and I really want it to be more powerful than said RSX-S -- as much as I loved the it, the RSX really could have used more power. I had my eye on a used Cayman before all of the details about the BRZ came out. It will be a year or two before I'm in the financial position to pick one up (will be a 3rd car for me and the wife), so might as well get everything I want. Now, I check this board a few times a week looking for nibbles on the STI model.

Just gotta convince said wife why we need said sports car...
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:04 PM   #30
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Not I. The STI may never make production anyway. Snooze you lose, the people who wait for a car that's probably never coming will be pissed when they miss their chance to buy this beauty.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:01 PM   #31
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If Subaru comes out with a more powerful (50-100hp) model and charges a reasonable amount for it, then I will trade in my BRZ Limited for it. If they don't, I'll boost the BRZ myself or sell it for a used Cayman S. (or new WRX if its anything like the hotness that is the Concept)
I'm in the same boat, although I don't think I would look at the WRX.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:07 AM   #32
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225 hp, 180 tqs - sign me up.
Unless you're suggesting that they increase the displacement or add forced induction, you're not going to get that kind of peak hp and torque from an NA 2.0-liter.


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being able to go fast through a corner > being able to go fast in a straight line.
Going faster through a corner > going fast through a corner
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:25 AM   #33
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I'm waiting for an STi. Hopefully it will be lighter with no radio or AC option. And no more ice mode braking.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:35 AM   #34
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I am interested and "waiting" but I am driving a BRZ limited now. One must know after the STI there will be another 20xx model with ??? coming.... Auto maker always have a newer model next year with some new stuff... life is short, buy it now.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:09 AM   #35
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Yea...and wait until 2016-2017 model.

...and then the Supra comes out.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:33 AM   #36
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The whole point of this car was to be affordable and fun. I doubt that subaru wants to cannibalize sales of the WRX STI. I can see it going one of three directions:

1. They will create a sport package that adds roughly $2,000 worth of kit and call it a day.
No engine mods. Maybe suspension but mostly cosmetic and aero. Maximum price of $30,000 MSRP.

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2. They will sell STI and SPT parts and try to create a mod culture and embrace that it is better at turning than going in a straight line. Which they already do.

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3. Now that they've seen that they can sell a RWD car. They will move the STI upmarket and slide the BRZ STI in its price point. (This much less likely than the others.) The WRX STI already boarders on too expensive for what it is.

This is uncharted territory for them honestly. They designed it to be an entry level sports car. So an entry level sports car it will stay.
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BRZ limited is already 28K. BRZ STI probably 32k? Thats 7K over an FRS for a few ammenities, body kit, and a small performance boost. Probably not down unless FIed.
Or the additional performance enhancements could be available on a "Premium" trim model. So instead of the cost being heaped on a $28k car, its being heaped on a $26k car. There's no rule that says you can only give more horsepower to the top trim model.
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I'm not holding my breath. Instead I'm building my own STI BRZ. It will wear STI badges, have 250-275 whp, considerably less oversteer and turn heads with it's subtle look. It probably won't be done for a few months but the plans are coming along nicely.
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The whole point of this car was to be affordable and fun. I doubt that subaru wants to cannibalize sales of the WRX STI. I can see it going one of three directions:

1. They will create a sport package that adds roughly $2,000 worth of kit and call it a day.
No engine mods. Maybe suspension but mostly cosmetic and aero. Maximum price of $30,000 MSRP.

or

2. They will sell STI and SPT parts and try to create a mod culture and embrace that it is better at turning than going in a straight line. Which they already do.

or

3. Now that they've seen that they can sell a RWD car. They will move the STI upmarket and slide the BRZ STI in its price point. (This much less likely than the others.) The WRX STI already boarders on too expensive for what it is.

This is uncharted territory for them honestly. They designed it to be an entry level sports car. So an entry level sports car it will stay.
Yeah, that is the problem I see too. An STI BRZ would be priced so close to an STI WRX. The question I have is so what? They are very different cars. If you want more room, AWD, heavier car get the WRX. If you are looking for more compact, light, RWD, get the BRZ. I can tell you right now I would have no problem dropping $32K down on a STI BRX that had brembos, 50+ more hp, and 50+ more ft lbs of torque along with bigger and stickier tires and some other enhancements. I would be in the market for that car, but at the same time, I am not in the market for a WRX.

I am not convinced a BRZ STI would kill off WRX STI sales or vice versa. And I would not see many BRZ STI's being produced, so the demand would be high I suspect.
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I'm not holding my breath. Instead I'm building my own STI BRZ. It will wear STI badges, have 250-275 whp, considerably less oversteer and turn heads with it's subtle look. It probably won't be done for a few months but the plans are coming along nicely.
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I'm not holding my breath. Instead I'm building my own STI BRZ. It will wear STI badges, have 250-275 whp, considerably less oversteer and turn heads with it's subtle look. It probably won't be done for a few months but the plans are coming along nicely.
If Subaru would release high performance parts that you could have the dealer install and it would not void the warranty, I would be all over this.

I am definitely going to watch your thread closely.
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I'm not holding my breath. Instead I'm building my own STI BRZ. It will wear STI badges, have 250-275 whp, considerably less oversteer and turn heads with it's subtle look. It probably won't be done for a few months but the plans are coming along nicely.
This is new and pertinent to me, oh wait, already did it.
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