Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll.

[NeedsmoreCowbell]

So far switching from Costco 93 octane premium to Shell V 93 octane 10% ethanol has made it run less noisy, but it still does soft chirping on soft gear changes when revs drop. The crickets have lost most of the battalion! Lets get the rest out of there!

[Brimford]

Originally Posted by NeedsmoreCowbell

So far switching from Costco 93 octane premium to Shell V 93 octane 10% ethanol has made it run less noisy, but it still does soft chirping on soft gear changes when revs drop. The crickets have lost most of the battalion! Lets get the rest out of there!

Your correct, i tried some Mobile gas for the last fill up and it's louder than ever! Going to switch back to shell after this tank!!!

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by sierra

What should void the warranty is using fuel that's not up to the specification that this car was designed for.
As White64Goat points out, 2T is designed to disperse in any fuel, even diesel.

Some of you just don't seem to understand that others are trying to help with this problem, by offering a solution until Toyota/Subaru can engineer and install the fix.

Well that's all fine and dandy but peoples solutions can be quit costly because no mater how you feel about this topic your warranty will end if they find anything in your gas tank bottom line sorry!!! trust me i make the call you dont!!! So i guess dont bring your car into my dealership!!! I am just trying to help before somebody does something that they will regret. In my opinion as and owner of an FRS is that if my Eng blows up Toyota will find whats wrong with it and make that repair for free because i have the factory warranty. Yes i would be sad to have my car down for the time but if that helps find the problem for all of us have at it. I'll just Drive my GTS!!!


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[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by cobrabyte

As mentioned before, 2-stroke oil blends completely with gasoline. You'd have a hard time even telling it was ever there. You'd find ethanol deposits before finding good quality 2T oil -- especially at the 1:1000 ratio that we are talking about. Using such a small amount will have zero ill effects on a modern vehicle.

As i have never tried this i cant guarantee anything but i do have a question. can you light 2-Stroke oil on fire with a match?

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

Subaru and Toyota have issued several statements on the issue, this forum just chooses to ignore them.

Latest from the Subaru rep I've been working with on my front bumper cover fitment issues is that they've logged enough complaints and a resolution is being worked on by Toyota. No info past that.

He stressed again, and cited Toyota as saying this as well, that it is not a detrimental problem to the engine or the fuel system. Adding anything other than actual fuel lubricant (he mentioned zMax, but I'm sure other brands are fine) such as 2-stroke oil can be potentially harmful to the motor and would recommend against it.

To anyone looking for a repair in the form of a TSB that's pouring gunk in their fuel tank should consider this, as your claim could very well be denied if they detect additives in your fuel. They have eyes on these open forums and know what users are doing with a surprising amount of clarity.

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[sierra]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

Adding anything other than actual fuel lubricant (he mentioned zMax, but I'm sure other brands are fine) such as 2-stroke oil can be potentially harmful to the motor and would recommend against it.

So what is 2T if it isn't an actual fuel lubricant? It's the most tried and tested fuel lubricant out there.
Why would something like zmax and other 'fuel lubricants' be recommended as alright to use?
How would they analyse the fuel to find which fuel lubricant had been used and then decide which one is acceptable?

[ShoGun]

480 miles and no chirping sounds. Changed my oil @ 450 miles and use 93 octane.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

As i have never tried this i cant guarantee anything but i do have a question. can you light 2-Stroke oil on fire with a match?

Good question.
Pour some in your underpants, drop a match on it and pull them back up.
If it gets hot you can let us know, yes it does burn.

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by sierra

Good question.
Pour some in your underpants, drop a match on it and pull them back up.
If it gets hot you can let us know, yes it does burn.

Dude really you can put whatever you want in your car, i dont give a $hit truthfully.

What I am saying for the people in the US just leave it because we will find out an additive was dumped into the system weather its found in the gas tank, the lines, the filter and or spark plugs. We will check pressures and I'm sure one burns slower then the other and we will light gas on fire (away from the buildings and cars, in a safe location)

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

Dude really you can put whatever you want in your car, i dont give a $hit truthfully.

What I am saying for the people in the US just leave it because we will find out an additive was dumped into the system weather its found in the gas tank, the lines, the filter and or spark plugs. We will check pressures and I'm sure one burns slower then the other and we will light gas on fire (away from the buildings and cars, in a safe location)

Translated to mean: as expected, the dealership will do everything in its power to deny your warranty claim first and foremost.

Thanks for being honest!

[Thunderchicken]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

Translated to mean: as expected, the dealership will do everything in its power to deny your warranty claim first and foremost.

Thanks for being honest!

Just so you know no dealership will run a fuel sample in a lab to see what is in your fuel it is too costly, plus they would have no clue what additives are in the fuel from station to station. I went rounds and rounds with a dealership trying to say I had water in my tank but they couldn't prove it and refused to show me the sample they said they pulled.

[sho220]

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

Well that's all fine and dandy but peoples solutions can be quit costly because no mater how you feel about this topic your warranty will end if they find anything in your gas tank bottom line sorry!!! trust me i make the call you dont!!! So i guess dont bring your car into my dealership!!! I am just trying to help before somebody does something that they will regret. In my opinion as and owner of an FRS is that if my Eng blows up Toyota will find whats wrong with it and make that repair for free because i have the factory warranty. Yes i would be sad to have my car down for the time but if that helps find the problem for all of us have at it. I'll just Drive my GTS!!!


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What dealership do you work at?

[Stu baru]

~200 miles and heard the chirping of the injectors sitting at a light last night for the first time. Seems to remain for just a moment during rev up before releasing the clutch and then dies out, so maybe there a flow aspect to it.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

We will check pressures and I'm sure one burns slower then the other and we will light gas on fire (away from the buildings and cars, in a safe location)

I've now got a vision of this hi tech forensic procedure out in the car park,
with a sample of the customer's fuel in an open container being set on fire.
If there's any sticky residue on the end of the testers burnt finger when he wipes the empty container the customer is declined warranty and that evidence will be tendered in court as evidence by the expert witness.

Sorry dude, just having a laugh. No offense.