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View Poll Results: What model name will the FT-86 be marketed under?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:49 AM   #351
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Don't get your panties in a bunch, scion has jack shit either (don't even bother to mention the tC). Furthermore, see that part in bold? It's the reason WHY Toyota needs it more. Not to mention, they have the HISTORY to go along with it. Most people who will actually buy this car around the world remember and revere the Supra, the MR-2, Celica, Corolla Levin, Starlet GT, Chasers V, Soarer etc... they were all Toyotas.. none were scions.

Misfit? Are you one of those that think Toyota should only produce dull mobiles? Take a long walk off a short pier.

I don't mind them naming something new, but it will not be a scion. Scions move less than 300k units a year TOTAL, it is not a brand designed to be mass market. Furthermore, $20k is about the maximum you'd pay for a base scion, the FT-86 will not undercut the $20k mark, I can guarantee you that (and I'd rather they not cut the corners to make it possible either)

p.s. Scion dealerships ARE Toyota dealerships.
I guess I just think the opposite of you... yes I think toyota should only produce dull -yet high selling- mobiles.

Buick doesn't have one sports car, does that mean they NEED one, no. And I feel the same way for Toyota, just let the younger brand take this car as their flagship and, as their flagship I think they could muddle with the price more acceptably. Also this would not be the first time the US market gets a Toyota under a different brand-name.

They are appealing this car to the masses and the masses will go to Scion for a youthful, well priced coupe before Toyota, just look at the lineup recently, its not who they are anymore.

Either way I think this would be the logic of the people at Toyota, even though I would rather say 'I' drive a Toyota than a Scion. In the end I will be in the Subaru though
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I guess I just think the opposite of you... yes I think toyota should only produce dull -yet high selling- mobiles.

Buick doesn't have one sports car, does that mean they NEED one, no. And I feel the same way for Toyota, just let the younger brand take this car as their flagship and, as their flagship I think they could muddle with the price more acceptably. Also this would not be the first time the US market gets a Toyota under a different brand-name.

They are appealing this car to the masses and the masses will go to Scion for a youthful, well priced coupe before Toyota, just look at the lineup recently, its not who they are anymore.

Either way I think this would be the logic of the people at Toyota, even though I would rather say 'I' drive a Toyota than a Scion. In the end I will be in the Subaru though
Glad you said it, because I was just about to give you directions to a Subaru dealer.

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But iirc no one in that engineering claim that Altezza was spiritual successor of AE86. Yes, Altezza design and engineering was led by Mr. Katayama (can't remember the first name) who help design original AE86 project (also help design the MKIV Supra). Just people assumed that it was spiritual successor of AE86 cuz of Mr. Katayama, but I don't remember hearing/reading Mr. Katayama saying that Altezza is spiritual successor of AE86. I stand to be correct.

He did actually, but I'll let you have the right of way because I am in no mood to go looking for that article right now.
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:17 PM   #353
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After reading through the last 23 pages, I voted other lol.
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Toyota Inazuma(稲妻) sounds pretty good, inazuma means lightning in Japanese(according to google translate)
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How bout GT86?
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How bout GT86?
I actually kinda like it.
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How bout GT86?
If they make GT ver of that, it'll be Toyota GT86 GT?
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:28 PM   #358
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If they make GT ver of that, it'll be Toyota GT86 GT?
Or GT86 TRD edition.

Just throwing things out there. Love the FT 86 name, but none of the alternatives so far.
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I wouldn't like to see 86 anywhere in the "name" simply cos it relates to the year of release of the original Hachi, and well, the FT-86 will (FCUK i hope) not be released in 2086. But yeah, it is supposed to be the "NEW HACHI"

That being said, It would be cool to tell people : "I drive a Corolla GT-X"
But i guess Ultimately it all depends on the FINAL production version and / or specs of the car
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I wouldn't like to see 86 anywhere in the "name" simply cos it relates to the year of release of the original Hachi, and well, the FT-86 will (FCUK i hope) not be released in 2086. But yeah, it is supposed to be the "NEW HACHI"

That being said, It would be cool to tell people : "I drive a Corolla GT-X"
But i guess Ultimately it all depends on the FINAL production version and / or specs of the car
Ok first 86 had nothing to do with the year of the release, that was simply the model name of the twin cam rear wheel drive variant of the car, which was available from 1985-1987. That generation of corrolla was first released in 1983 with production ending in may 1987 with the release of the 6th gen corolla.

And second that may be nice, but as this is simply a spiritual successor not a nother corolla model I would rather they give it a new name, something it can make its own, so that its whole life people aren't constantly trying to compare it to the 86. Cause we all know, there will always be the people saying it will never measure up to the old 86 no matter amazing it is, and those people will forever be putting it down. I know people have said it before on here, I know i've said it before on here, and I am saying it again, I hope toyota gives this beauty a whole new name that she can completely make her own.
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rofl @ the thought that it wouldn't match up to the AE86........... some of you guys kill me.....



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it will never measure up to the old 86 no matter amazing it is, and those people will forever be putting it down.
well if you don't think a modern automobile can drive like a vehicle from the 80's I think you've got another thing coming. Will it feel like a car from the 80's. Of course it wont. Will it exceed the abilities of the vehicle from the 80's -- I'd sure hope so.

Technology has come a long way in the last 2 decades. You can't honestly believe the cars to be similar. The closest thing we'll get to similar is the core principle. Lightweight, RWD, fun to drive.
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You misunderstood me, and I forgot to add a very important line to that sentence.

"Cause we all know, there will always be the people saying it will never measure up to the old 86 no matter amazing it is."

I'm not saying it won't measure up, in fact I don't think the two should be compared except in a very loose way. Yes they are going for the idea that was the very essence of the original, but they are in no way trying remake the original.
After saying all of this and looking at what you posted we are saying basically the exact same thing. You may be better at putting to words what you mean, but I mean the same thing u are saying.
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Old 05-12-2010, 09:04 AM   #364
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That being said, It would be cool to tell people : "I drive a Corolla GT-X"

GTX is a great shout, i would totally love to say i drive a GT-X


i wouldnt mind HRG either, Hachi Roku Gsports

but HRG sounds too bulky for such a sleek car


maybe a THR (Toyota Hachi Roku) is more fitting, sounds sleeker,



or Toyota Shadow 86
or Toyota BEAST 69
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