FR-S vs. 370z, end all be all of discussions

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Yes, but it still weight hundreds more than his examples; respectively at about 2,200 and 2,000/2,000

The MR-S never came with the 2ZZ, which was a crying shame...there's no point arguing about 'could have beens'.

The other is a @#$@ing Lotus....seriously? That's not the same class. $$$$ says so.

He was arguing something about the Celica and the Si......from the Si of the same generation as the Celica being discussed, you're looking at similar weight, and a Celica pumping out 20 more hp than the Honda engine.

Also, when you speak of Civic Si's....the EP3 isn't exactly the most stellar of the lineup you brag first about.

[chulooz]

He was arguing that the 2ZZ would be better suited in lighter applications. He then gave 2 example, both of which are lighter than the Celica; even through it was considered a light car at 2,500lbs.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

I've seen all kinds of swaps in the AE86: UZ, 7M, 13b, 12a, 3S, F20 and F22,....but never personally a 2ZZ swap.

Thats not to say it hasn't been done....just haven't personally seen it.

Yeah, I was curious. I've heard of all of those except a 7M in one (doesn't make too much sense to me given that putting one in probably doubles the hachi's weight...).

I figured that the 2ZZGE is pretty much the spiritual successor to the 4AGE so someone must've tried. But never heard of it.

Probably too much fab work to turn it North-South. All the above swaps have a FR configuration available.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by chulooz

He was arguing that the 2ZZ would be better suited in lighter applications. He then gave 2 example, both of which are lighter than the Celica; even through it was considered a light car at 2,500lbs.

Any engine is better suited in a lighter car. Thats the benefit of having a lighter car. I counter by saying, for its class, and price range, the 2ZZ was an excellent fit in the Celica.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Yeah, I was curious. I've heard of all of those except a 7M in one (doesn't make too much sense to me given that putting one in probably doubles the hachi's weight...).

Hahaha, I still remember that picture....man, that 7M was SNUG in there. Tight fit to the extreme.

Oh, forgot SR20...seen those too.

[Leeky]

Originally Posted by xantonin

They should have stuck with only the 2ZZ-GE model and gone all out IMO.

Yep totally agree, the 1ZZ-FE is an awful awful engine and Toyota should be ashamed with themselves for unleashing it upon the world

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Hahaha, I still remember that picture....man, that 7M was SNUG in there. Tight fit to the extreme.

Oh, forgot SR20...seen those too.

And now about to be 2ar

[Matador]

Wow, 23 pages........

[chulooz]

wow, noob settings....




9 pages.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by chulooz

wow, noob settings....




9 pages.

[Mouse]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Hahaha, I still remember that picture....man, that 7M was SNUG in there. Tight fit to the extreme.

Oh, forgot SR20...seen those too.

You forgot the 20b also.

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

lmao that had me laughing pretty good over here.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Go to User CP -> Edit Options -> Posts per page.

Oh and how nice a lolcat .

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by Mouse

You forgot the 20b also.

I was listing swaps I've personally seen. Not doubting a 3 rotor has been put in there, just haven't seen it.

Edit: @dragon...you know, the Formula D page does list Taka's engine as an AZ...and I never really did get a chance to look under his hood. But I swear, from looking at the front of the valve cover from his hood scoop...and listening to him go back up the hill....I swear that was a 4A. I could be COMPLETELY wrong though.