Why I like Mazda engineers

[Atropine]

OK maybe I am crazy...

I am aware of how unreliable Rotary Engines can be (and are).

But when they are running right...they are soooo smooth and sound great.

I Middle School, a man that I use to babysit for, he had a convertible FC RX-7. He would drop the top and pick me up to babysit his 2 year old...and I will never forget how it sounded with the top down.

He always said you had to treat it like a 2-Stroke engine and he would bitch about Apex Seals about every 2-3 years.

His was in great shape...and still had its issues...but when it was working...it was pretty sweet.

Because of this, ALL RX7's make me feel nostalgic.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Atropine

OK maybe I am crazy...

I am aware of how unreliable Rotary Engines can be (and are).

But when they are running right...they are soooo smooth and sound great.

I Middle School, a man that I use to babysit for, he had a convertible FC RX-7. He would drop the top and pick me up to babysit his 2 year old...and I will never forget how it sounded with the top down.

He always said you had to treat it like a 2-Stroke engine and he would bitch about Apex Seals about every 2-3 years.

His was in great shape...and still had its issues...but when it was working...it was pretty sweet.

Because of this, ALL RX7's make me feel nostalgic.

I'm confused.... are you in love with the rotary? Or are you in love with the man you used to baby sit for?

[malave7567]

So much rotary hate... I miss mine more everyday. Though I see why new ones cannot be made in today's regulations/MPG. I would pay the premium for it though.

I really wish we could have seen their 16X evolve from more than just concept, but oh well.

[Sideways&Smiling]

We need an FE RX7 so badly. I still love the FD sooo much.

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

I'm confused.... are you in love with the rotary? Or are you in love with the man you used to baby sit for?

The car...maybe you are confused about your sexuality?

[f0rge]

I've always wanted and FD (just never the right time) and I almost bought an RX8 instead of my FRS.

Fuel economy was the concern for me at the time, as well as the overall size of the vehicle (too big).

Some days I wonder what could have been.

[cdrazic93]

If I had more money than I knew what to do with, sure Id buy myself a FD or FC and build it.

[themadscientist]

I always described my FC like dating a stripper. It will wreck your house, bang your freinds and steal your money, but every now and then it will bang the shit out of you and you almost forget all that shit it put you through.

All the bullshit of taking care of it was worth it when I was ripping down the highway like a rabid chainsaw.

The whole "rotaries aren't reliable" thing is a specious argument. My engine ran like a Swiss watch. All my problems were caused by the sketchy wiring in the FC. The engine itself, when the car's wiring was working halfway correctly never let me down. That is because, ahem, I KNOW HOW TO FUCKING MAINTAIN THE DAMNED THING!

Fire it up, don't let it flood. Again, not an engine problem, that's a computer problem. Flood out an old Chevy V8 and see how that works for you. Not a "rotary thing."

Warm it up before you start pushing on it. Again, start beating on your piston engine when it's cold; not a "rotary thing."

Run non-synthetic oil because the engine oil is also injected into the combustion chambers to lube your rotor seals. What do you think the oil splashed onto your cylinders is doing for your piston rings? True, you need to check your oil regularly, but do you just assume your oil level in your piston engine is adequate between changes? I don't. I check any engine regularly including my rotary and the consumption is negligible. My truck eats more because of aeration and blowing it out through the PCV. Compression is good, the crank just slaps through standing oil and causes problem. THAT is a BS design, but I'm not here to slam Daihatsu.

Premixing, well, that's a subject of much debate within the rotary community. Some say it's not necessary, some say it's all you should run, I'm in the middle. I kept my OMP and added a shot of Motul to the gas. I'm a big 2 stroke lover too, though, so, again, premixing is not some mysterious thing for me. Here's all it is. I have my bottle of oil and my little 100cc graduated cylinder and spend the grand total of an extra minute measuring oil out and dumping that in before filling it up. Ever dump a bottle of octane boost or injector cleaner into the tank of your piston car? It's that damned difficult.

Don't overheat a rotary. Hey, guess what, don't overheat any engine. Duh.

Don't lean out a rotary. It blows seals. Detonation kills any motor. You know what a blown apex seal is, a broken piston ring. No motor will live forever if you are denying it the correct mixture and timing for the boost you are running.

Rotaries use a lot of fuel, true, oh so true. That's a legit deal breaker for a lot of people.

Rotaries are a different animal than a piston engine and require a person to start at zero and learn a new concept. That is also a legit deal breaker for a lot of people.

In the end, though, it's a machine and it works until you don't do what you are supposed to do then it breaks. It's not the machine's fault if the knucklehead operator abuses it.

Mazda didn't win LeMans in 91 because their car was the fastest, it wasn't. They won because the faster cars broke, the piston cars broke. Now, it was silly things that broke, but using rotary hater "logic" the fact that they broke is all that matters, they broke, they had piston engines so piston engines are unreliable.

I don't actually believe that. I only use it to illustrate the silliness of the bandwagon misinformed hater.



How can a rotary fan be mad when our main detractors are guys like this?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3peVDKV6OE"]Parody: Rotary vs Piston Engine Explained for Dummies - YouTube[/ame]

It's more like this, guy.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOw_3wUmljg"]750hp 3 Rotor RX7 vs GT-R vs Blown Camaro - YouTube[/ame]


Oh, and by the way. How many Japanese manufacturers have won LeMans? Yeah.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners"]List of 24 Hours of Le Mans winners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[tahdizzle]

Your entire position on "how to properly operate a Rotary Engine" and the comparisons to a carburated v8 is apples and oranges.

[themadscientist]

That you disagree only adds weight. Have you met you?

[tahdizzle]

You are a fanboi. Get over it.

I never said you were incorrect. Anything properly maintained and operated will do exactly what its supposed to do.

I said your comparison is apples and oranges.

The fact that you get so defensive when anyone disagrees with you or you THINK they disagree with you proves that you have self esteem problems and are compensating for something.

I've met Hundreds of guys just like you when I served my country. You're nothing to waste time on.

[themadscientist]

No, just you, You've earned it. Not sure what your serving your country reference is all about, but I'm sure in your mind it's relevant.

[tahdizzle]

Listen, you can take you're thread wherever you want. But Rotary is dead, let it die, move on.

[themadscientist]

Rotary is, pretty much, dead. Then again, so is the Skyline as far as I'm concerned and cars that just do what you tell them to do.