Some thoughts after upgraded tires

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

Don't know if body-roll is the right term here, in short, the entire sideway action feels much more natural with the stock tires on. Whenever you break the traction entering a corner the car just slides more naturally. However, when I upgraded the tires to the Michelin PPS, sometimes it feels like even though the chassis wants to break away, the tires are holding it back. As a result It's sort of all over the place.

Anybody has any similar thoughts?

Are you on stock wheels or did you opt for a wider wheel? What size mpss are you running?

[Drakelee117]

Originally Posted by Stewie

Are you on stock wheels or did you opt for a wider wheel? What size mpss are you running?

Stock wheels. Stock size, 17 inch

[Yellow_Jacket]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

Don't know if body-roll is the right term here, in short, the entire sideway action feels much more natural with the stock tires on. Whenever you break the traction entering a corner the car just slides more naturally. However, when I upgraded the tires to the Michelin PPS, sometimes it feels like even though the chassis wants to break away, the tires are holding it back. As a result It's sort of all over the place.

Anybody has any similar thoughts?

How long have you had the tires? It takes a few hundred miles for the new tires to break in. Been autoXing and tracked one time with the PSS and thought them to be fairly progressive. Way better on the streets with PSS. Never had a chance to autox or track with OEM since they were destroyed by a pothole.

[Xinshadow]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

Don't know if body-roll is the right term here, in short, the entire sideway action feels much more natural with the stock tires on. Whenever you break the traction entering a corner the car just slides more naturally. However, when I upgraded the tires to the Michelin PPS, sometimes it feels like even though the chassis wants to break away, the tires are holding it back. As a result It's sort of all over the place.

Anybody has any similar thoughts?

Modify the suspension and you'll be fine. The changes ideally should be done together, money allowing. After a ton of research I'm going with the hotchkis Stage 1 tvs suspension kit and Enkei RFP1s in a 17x7.5 size with Conti ExtremeContact DWs in a 225 width. It'll be the best setup for a summer DD/track toy and as an added bonus sizes and positions the wheels so they look like they actually belong on the car haha

[Pete156]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

I could still throw my car around like it was on prius tires on 255 wide Z2s last year without any power mods.

Its all in how you drive your car.

OK , I'm calling BS on this. You must be Aryton Senna.

I am not new, and not a 20 something.

I have added more than 100bhp to the stock setup on my BRZ.

You simply cannot substitute tires and call yourself an expert. Not even if you are Louis Hamilton! This car has NO power.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Pete156

OK , I'm calling BS on this. You must be Aryton Senna.

I am not new, and not a 20 something.

I have added more than 100bhp to the stock setup on my BRZ.

You simply cannot substitute tires and call yourself an expert. Not even if you are Louis Hamilton! This car has NO power.

Oh my God, did you just jump into a perfectly nice thread discussing tires and piss all over it with that "moar powa" bullshit? Seriously?

OP, your take on mods is spot on. Especially with this platform, everything is already amazingly well balanced/tuned. A sure-fire way to destroy that is to take a whole bunch of shiny parts and throw them onto the car all at once. Poof! Disaster.

If you really want it, one small change at a time. Save your old parts. Maybe the change isn't what you wanted.

I'm happy with the tires as well. Stock wheels are great. I'll probably get the PSS when the time comes just because of all the buzz but, yeah, I bet I'll feel exactly the way you did.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Pete156

OK , I'm calling BS on this. You must be Aryton Senna.

I am not new, and not a 20 something.

I have added more than 100bhp to the stock setup on my BRZ.

You simply cannot substitute tires and call yourself an expert. Not even if you are Louis Hamilton! This car has NO power.

I can slide my Z2's with no power changes as well, it ain't rocket science it's just understanding and controlling your inputs to the car: steering throttle brake & clutch.

It's not an 'at will' thing you can do by stomping your foot on the floor, you have to either try to do it or make a mistake for it to happen.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Pete156

This car has NO power.

You must have a very large expensive paperweight.

[Pete156]

Sorry

[themadscientist]

Honestly, I was impressed with the road holding abilities of the prius tires. During my spirited test drive I never felt it get squirelly even with the traction control killed. My purchase of super sticky tires is only to wrap something around the new wheels. The stock wheels are fugly.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

The stock wheels are fugly.

Hey, ouch.