MSN.com hating on the twins!

[fang_gt86]

Look fast but aren't? I thought that's the whole idea behind the twins?

[Hanakuso]

Seems dead on

[DarkSunrise]

0-60 in the low/mid 6's is pretty slow these days. But to be fair, they should have also mentioned some other surprisingly slow cars:

- Miata
- BMW 220i
- MB CLA250
- Mini Cooper S
- Honda Civic SI

etc.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Mini is probaby a pretty good in the twisties too.

I haven't driven a new mini coupe or a new mazda 6 to give my 2 cents on them, but I can't imagine a mazda 6 being a better than a mini in that department.

A segment is a class of cars ala 4 door sedans. They are comparing the Mazda to other 4 door sedans. They even mention that it is the only one that does not come with a turbo or V6. It is the best handling car in THAT segment.

[NWFRS]

I'd rather have a good-looking slow car than an ugly fast one.

I notice no one is clamoring for a fast Nissan Leaf or Cube.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Rampage

A segment is a class of cars ala 4 door sedans. They are comparing the Mazda to other 4 door sedans. They even mention that it is the only one that does not come with a turbo or V6. It is the best handling car in THAT segment.

In that case. MSN done lost it's mind.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Koa

You're missing the point. The MSN kiddy writer said, "one of the best handling cars in the segment". Look at that selection. It's an obvious no-shit statement. The only real competition is the FRS within that segment.

TIL the Mazda6 sedan competes in the same segment as the FRS.

Damn, I didn't even cross shop the two.

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

In that case. MSN done lost it's mind.

???

[tahdizzle]

@strat61caster If the mazda 6 is one of the "Best Handling Cars" in the sub 30k 4 door sedan segment. MSN needs to drive more 4 door sedans.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

@strat61caster If the mazda 6 is one of the "Best Handling Cars" in the sub 30k 4 door sedan segment. MSN needs to drive more 4 door sedans.

I asked the question above, what 4 door sub $30k cars handle better? I honestly don't know, I've just seen heaps of praise on the 6.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I asked the question above, what 4 door sub $30k cars handle better? I honestly don't know, I've just seen heaps of praise on the 6.

WRX, Civic SI sedan, etc. But they probably meant the sub-$30k mid-size sedan segment (i.e., Accord, Camry, 200, etc.)

FWIW, I've driven the 6 and thought it handled fairly well for its class.

[MTCRX]

If the author puts a Scion in his top list he might lose his sophistication and street cred.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

In that case. MSN done lost it's mind.

Could be.

I have no issue with the article. The twins are not quick comparatively speaking. They are pretty fast though. a lot of guys have had stock ones up to 145-147 mph. The just do not there quickly.

What so many journalist and car people seem to ignore is that fast (actually quickness) is only one performance parameter. Many "fast" cars fail at a lot of other performance parameters such as handling, feel, MPG, braking, fun, level of confidence. So what if the twins are not as "fast" as some. They check a lot of other boxes that the others do not. Dollar for dollar they are still a great "all round performance car".

Some people are just too narrow minded to see that it is all about the whole package.

[finch1750]

Our car is slow. So what? I knew that going to buy it. Who cares that they wrote an article saying just what everyone else alreadys knows.

[Hot Lava]

I thought it no more than an underhanded compliment for the twins. They complimented its looks. Mentioned its excellent handing the went on to site other examples of classes of cars none of which had better straight line acceleration than the twins.