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bruizerrob 12-04-2014 05:24 PM

MSN.com hating on the twins!
 
I usually visit msn.com once a day to read their links to automotive stories. Today was no exception, and behold on top of the screen I see this: http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/resea...BfYn0p#image=4
I can't get the photo to load correctly, but the picture used for the article is none other than a 10 series fr-s! The version of the frs/brz/86 that I own. Now what they say comes as no surprise to any of us, but still come on man.

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Atticus808 12-04-2014 05:27 PM

lol.
what do you expect from a non auto enthusiast that only likes mustangs cause bro it's so fast

Koa 12-04-2014 05:29 PM

And further on the list..

"...The Mazda6 can reach 60 mph in the mid to high 7.0-second range and finishes the quarter mile in the mid to high 15.0-second range. The Mazda6 is one of the best handling cars in the segment."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Yea, okay, MSN. You've been complete shit since... well.. ever. :lol:

strat61caster 12-04-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2044636)
And further on the list..

"...The Mazda6 can reach 60 mph in the mid to high 7.0-second range and finishes the quarter mile in the mid to high 15.0-second range. The Mazda6 is one of the best handling cars in the segment."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Yea, okay, MSN. You've been complete shit since... well.. ever. :lol:

Wait, what 4 door full-size sedan handles better for less than $30k brand new? You can walk out the door with a 6 for less than $21k+tax with some incentives and not trying hard at all.

Defuser 12-04-2014 05:34 PM

My English 101 class had better writing submitted by students who, by their own admission, had not read a book since grade school.

raven1231 12-04-2014 05:36 PM

What is wrong with their statement about the FRS? it's true? Doesn't mean they're hating on it

FRiSson 12-04-2014 05:46 PM

There is something amusing about this focus on speed. The first sports cars to become really popular in the US were the Austin-Healey, Jaguars straight-sixes and various Triumphs and MG's. None of those went fast compared to the big V-8 cars of the day. In fact, there was a certain pride that the motors were small, but that they didn't have to slow down for curves, unlike the big detroit iron.

The first real pocket hatches, the Rabbit GTi and BMW 2002Ti were in the 10-12 second 0-60 range and were considered fast. Ferraris and Porsches might be faster than 7 seconds. Now a car that is 12 seconds is considered "dangerously slow".

With supercars now in the 2 seconds range and cadillacs in the 4 second range, it is difficult to consider what fast is in the real world. Certainly utilizing those speeds off of the track is borderline sociopathic.

The FR-S requires a different mindset. The car gives an immediacy to driving that is totally missing in contemporary cars. To me, that is far more important that the rush of speed. I've driven a lot of crappy cars that have big engines. But, I don't care to buy one. Give me a real driver's car instead.

themadscientist 12-04-2014 05:47 PM

I don't really give a rats ass what they think, but as far as the car being slow for how it looks, it is. So what? I didn't buy my BRZ for raw speed. I have his big brother for that. Bro isn't nearly as fun on the twisties, though. I don't try to hammer nails with a screwdriver either.

Koa 12-04-2014 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2044641)
Wait, what 4 door full-size sedan handles better for less than $30k brand new? You can walk out the door with a 6 for less than $21k+tax with some incentives and not trying hard at all.

You're missing the point. The MSN kiddy writer said, "one of the best handling cars in the segment". Look at that selection. It's an obvious no-shit statement. The only real competition is the FRS within that segment.

8R6 12-04-2014 05:54 PM

when truth becomes "hating"... h8rz g0nna h8

8R6 12-04-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2044682)
You're missing the point. The MSN kiddy writer said, "one of the best handling cars in the segment". Look at that selection. It's an obvious no-shit statement. The only real competition is the FRS within that segment.

by segment, using context, they mean the non-premium midsize sedan segment.

Tcoat 12-04-2014 06:08 PM

Completely factual and I see no signs of hate anyplace. In fact they actually point out that the cars are not meant for a straight line run. The cars do look faster (in a straight line) then they are.

Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ

With a focus on suspension tuning and handling, the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ are some of the most capable autocross cars straight off the dealer lots. But their straight-line acceleration doesn't quite live up to the exterior's sporty styling.


Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ

With a focus on suspension tuning and handling, the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ are some of the most capable autocross cars straight off the dealer lots. But their straight-line acceleration doesn't quite live up to the exterior's sporty styling. While the pair can deliver a 0-60 mph sprint in the low 6.0-second range and a quarter-mile pass in the high 14.0-second range, their slippery profile would suggest much quicker acceleration.

mav1178 12-04-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruizerrob (Post 2044623)
I usually visit msn.com once a day to read their links to automotive stories. Today was no exception, and behold on top of the screen I see this: http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/resea...BfYn0p#image=4
I can't get the photo to load correctly, but the picture used for the article is none other than a 10 series fr-s! The version of the frs/brz/86 that I own. Now what they say comes as no surprise to any of us, but still come on man.

Top 15 Cars That Look Fast, But Really Aren't

You did read the title correctly, right?

And you do realize a 6-cylinder Camry will smoke you in a straight line, right?

-alex

tahdizzle 12-04-2014 06:15 PM

Mini is probaby a pretty good in the twisties too.

I haven't driven a new mini coupe or a new mazda 6 to give my 2 cents on them, but I can't imagine a mazda 6 being a better than a mini in that department.


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