evan's innovate fr-s hits 311.5whp on the juice

[evan]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Keep in mind Evan is using Meth at this point to cool the Blower instead of a intercooler. The blowers get molten hot. We also live in Oregon where it's hardly ever over 80.

I'll be switching to a 50/50 mix soon since the E85 is providing all the pre-detonation resistance I'll ever need. The water should do even better at bringing those post-blower temps down. Also beneficial in the combustion chamber.

[clayrush]

Originally Posted by evan

I'll be switching to a 50/50 mix soon since the E85 is providing all the pre-detonation resistance I'll ever need. The water should do even better at bringing those post-blower temps down. Also beneficial in the combustion chamber.

So then there may be hope for us not needing meth.
For now my girlfriend is not looking for quite as high as 300 hopefully e85 will keep it cool enough for the power lvls she is comfortable with. It would be nice to not need to run any intercooler or meth.

For now I am going to sit back and see what the 210 + will be like or if it will get CARB approval. And how some of the kit quality issues get worked out.

MY nonintercooled s/c setup on my celica did not like heavy footed driving on anything over 85 degrees with 91 oct. with E85 I can bash on it in temps over 90 without a worry.

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by clayrush

So then there may be hope for us not needing meth.
For now my girlfriend is not looking for quite as high as 300 hopefully e85 will keep it cool enough for the power lvls she is comfortable with. It would be nice to not need to run any intercooler or meth.

For now I am going to sit back and see what the 210 + will be like or if it will get CARB approval. And how some of the kit quality issues get worked out.

MY nonintercooled s/c setup on my celica did not like heavy footed driving on anything over 85 degrees with 91 oct. with E85 I can bash on it in temps over 90 without a worry.

E85 will not cool the blower. Just the cylinders. E85 is also very un-reliable when you think about octane. One day it might be E70 the next it might be E85. Carb Approval also only comes if you USE the Innovate carb approved tune with stock intake and stock exhaust. If you get a tune thats besides the innovate carb legal tune it's not tech "carb legal" and E85 will not work with the carb legal tune. Something to keep in mind. I personally wouldn't use E85 unless you have the intercooler or Meth to keep the blower charge temps somewhat tamed.... I also personally wouldn't use E85 w.o a flex fuel kit.

[PRE-Erich]

One thing that is pretty beneficial on e85 tuned "conservatively" at a 11.8 afr is that if you do get a batch that is below specs you will just go a little richer which down to 10.6 won't really cause these cars to break apart. Also if it's more than e85 you will go slightly leaner with more detonation resistance. 12.5:1 on e95 with the same timing as an e85 tune really isn't going to cause you any issues. Now if we tuned at 11.4:1 or 11.2:1 like we would on pump gas then you could get a little too rich from a lower grade mix but realistically from e75-e95 you aren't going to have any problems at 11psi.

[clayrush]

I know modifying the base/carb kit makes it loose carb approval. I want a carb kit I can expand on and put back to spec without completely removing the blower every time I go to smog. It is one thing to change out a pulley, belts' injectors and flash. It is bit more of a pain to take off everything.

As far as cooling the charger itself, I was not to worried about it. I was just looking if e85 would keep detonation in check and hopefully with the motor having a cooler burn it would keep the overall system a little cooler.

But hey if we find we need meth we get meth.