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Anorexic 86 · 12-14-2013, 04:23 AM

industrial · 12-14-2013, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

The point Jesse was making, was that you were presenting an opinion without disclosing that your companies are related, therefore it stands to good reason that your opinion is always going to be biased towards the product, whether it was good or not.

He wasn't questioning the product (which is how you be taken it)

He was pointing out a fact that you should have disclosed.

Drift-Office · 12-14-2013, 09:28 PM

Hey guys, let's let this be yeah? Let me just do what I need to and I'll give you all a no-bull assessment on the matter!

Meanwhile, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

gmsii · 12-14-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

He was pointing out a fact that you should have disclosed.

As a matter of disclosure

1) Grams Injectors and Pumps are great products offered to enthusiasts at an excellent value.
2) KW and Grams are both brands of Group-A Autosports
3) As of Friday at 6:00pm the KW bastard who failed to disclose #2 was tarred and feathered. Just before boiling him in hot oil, he vowed to sacrifice his first born to the 86 gods thus we spared his life, but not before demoting him to janitor.

Drift-Office · 12-14-2013, 09:45 PM

Guys - really?!

KraftWerks · 12-16-2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmsii

As a matter of disclosure

1) Grams Injectors and Pumps are great products offered to enthusiasts at an excellent value.
2) KW and Grams are both brands of Group-A Autosports
3) As of Friday at 6:00pm the KW bastard who failed to disclose #2 was tarred and feathered. Just before boiling him in hot oil, he vowed to sacrifice his first born to the 86 gods thus we spared his life, but not before demoting him to janitor.

Yay! The floors are going to be spotless around here!

Bob, enjoy your holiday and we STILL look forward to hearing your thoughts. Didn't mean to thrash your thread...

Bigmaxy · 02-13-2014, 08:53 PM

Updates? I'm searching for pump and injector options for E85 FI.

Drift-Office · 02-13-2014, 10:23 PM

Sorry Bigmaxy ~ I've been busy overseas and just got back. I'll post up as soon as I get some results in!

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

DesertFrs · 04-06-2014, 06:15 PM

Updates on these injectors?

FAER · 04-07-2014, 11:42 AM

Drift-office is known for impecably positive posts. With a lack of follow up i can only assume he is unwilling to speak negative about the product. I mean theoretically if you don't have something nice to say its better to say nothing at all

deucethemoose · 04-08-2014, 01:03 PM

I'm sure Bob will chime in at some point - He has a busy shop to run, so he can't spend as much time on the forum as the rest of us. I do recall asking him about the injectors a month or so ago when I was at the shop and I think he said that they straight up didn't fit. I know for sure that they are not being used.

SPCorBUST · 05-16-2014, 04:48 AM

I guess I'll have some feedback soon enough as an unbiased customer.

I purchased the KraftWerks C38 kit (bigger blower) and purchased the 265 lph pump and 550 cc injectors to support it. I'll be getting tuned by Bill at Delicious and daily driving it, but during the day of tuning I'll ask him some general questions about it as well.

Drift-Office · 08-05-2014, 10:35 PM

Back from the dead (sorta!) - I've been rather busy this season, haven't even had the time to really catch up and post here on the forum but I'm back with details about the injectors!

We recently had to go to E85 for some of our clientele, and I had these injectors around with every intention of testing them out. Installation was rather straight forward (for us) and I'm told that in that time, the process has since been simplified even more so with the addition of "Plug N' Play" clips so that you need not splice or solder the wires anymore.

Upon startup, you will hear more injector noise, but coming from a performance standpoint, it's pretty standard fare to us so I didn't think anything of it - but the pumps, while they work with other applications, aren't a true "drop-in" setup like I would like to see. Thus I went with the DENSO pump instead, but I have no doubt that this would work well for it's intended purposes.

That said, once the injectors were scaled, we were able to achieve a nice 400WHP with E85 on our FRS, dyno chart herein :

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I'm happy to say that they work like a charm, no complaints!

Regards!

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

Raven604 · 08-05-2014, 11:43 PM

That's the avo base kit? What size exhaust ?

04-06-2014, 06:15 PM	#23
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04-07-2014, 11:42 AM	#24
FAER Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Silver BRZ Location: Texas Posts: 361 Thanks: 22 Thanked 118 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Drift-office is known for impecably positive posts. With a lack of follow up i can only assume he is unwilling to speak negative about the product. I mean theoretically if you don't have something nice to say its better to say nothing at all Last edited by FAER; 04-10-2014 at 01:41 AM.

04-08-2014, 01:03 PM	#25
deucethemoose Functionally Retarded Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: LinkECU V6 MR2 - MKVII Golf R Location: PNW Posts: 709 Thanks: 81 Thanked 425 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sure Bob will chime in at some point - He has a busy shop to run, so he can't spend as much time on the forum as the rest of us. I do recall asking him about the injectors a month or so ago when I was at the shop and I *think* he said that they straight up didn't fit. I know for sure that they are not being used. __________________ 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - 1MZ-FE 3.0L - Other Stuff I'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.

08-05-2014, 10:35 PM	#27
Drift-Office Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: AE86 / FRS / FC3S / GC8 / S14 / R32 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 789 Thanks: 633 Thanked 1,431 Times in 372 Posts Mentioned: 169 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Back from the dead (sorta!) - I've been rather busy this season, haven't even had the time to really catch up and post here on the forum but I'm back with details about the injectors! We recently had to go to E85 for some of our clientele, and I had these injectors around with every intention of testing them out. Installation was rather straight forward (for us) and I'm told that in that time, the process has since been simplified even more so with the addition of "Plug N' Play" clips so that you need not splice or solder the wires anymore. Upon startup, you will hear more injector noise, but coming from a performance standpoint, it's pretty standard fare to us so I didn't think anything of it - but the pumps, while they work with other applications, aren't a true "drop-in" setup like I would like to see. Thus I went with the DENSO pump instead, but I have no doubt that this would work well for it's intended purposes. That said, once the injectors were scaled, we were able to achieve a nice 400WHP with E85 on our FRS, dyno chart herein : I'm happy to say that they work like a charm, no complaints! Regards! Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

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