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Old 01-26-2012, 03:40 PM   #15
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You can run low offset wheels to push your tires out farther and trim your fender/quarter lips so they don't rub. You can run drop spindles so you can get low without compromising suspension geometry. You can align your car so that you're actually maximizing contact patch. You can run appropriate sized rubber.

Congratulations, you now have a car that looks appropriate. Flushtards will hate it.




(This car has the same tire sizes as a stock ZR1)
That. Is a. Beautiful look.
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #16
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Most of the hellaflush cars are on air ride suspension so their goal isn't to get "great handling" but rather getting as low as you can with the wheels as cambered and flush as possible. I don't see why some have to hate on it since it's just a different way of customizing a car.

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Old 01-26-2012, 03:53 PM   #17
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What LSxJunkie posted is nicely down flush stance but not hella

Hella is like 5 steps beyond what was posted

pretty much if you just scrap you are doing it right and are Hellaflush if you can still drive it like its meant to be driven then you aren't doing it right
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:58 PM   #18
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I don't see why some have to hate on it since it's just a different way of customizing a car.
True, anyone can do what they want with their car. However to me it looks stupid.
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:01 PM   #19
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:18 PM   #20
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True, anyone can do what they want with their car. However to me it looks stupid.
It's always different strokes for different folks. There isn't any performance aspect about it, just looking clean and dropped. That's why I give them more respect b/c they are not trying to go out on the track and around town, it's aired up so it's not scraping everywhere.

I would rather see a hellaflush car than a riced out car with a huge body kit that doesn't fit, huge wing, pointless decals, huge fart pipe and a douchebag kid driving it.

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Old 01-26-2012, 04:28 PM   #21
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So forgive me for my ignorance: what is the point of flush fitment if there is no way for the tire vertical movement? It seems that it will scrape the panel no matter how hard you set your spring...
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:31 PM   #22
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It's always different strokes for different folks. There isn't any performance aspect about it, just looking clean and dropped. That's why I give them more respect b/c they are not trying to go out on the track and around town, it's aired up so it's not scraping everywhere.

I would rather see a hellaflush car than a riced out car with a huge body kit that doesn't fit, huge wing, pointless decals, huge fart pipe and a douchebag kid driving it.

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I see it as the exact same thing. I think the amount of hate comes from the fact that this look is anti performance and really more of a fashion statement. This is a forum for a car focused on being a drivers car so I think most of us are focused on the driving characteristics and setups like this are almost an insult to how we think as driving enthusiasts.
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haha,

i rock a slight mexiflush when my summer wheels go on,

LOVE IT
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That diagram is so WIN! haha, if you notice, all the struts, coilovers, and even the fender-rolling can be seen differently! Great attention to detail to whoever made that
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It's always different strokes for different folks. There isn't any performance aspect about it, just looking clean and dropped. That's why I give them more respect b/c they are not trying to go out on the track and around town, it's aired up so it's not scraping everywhere.

I would rather see a hellaflush car than a riced out car with a huge body kit that doesn't fit, huge wing, pointless decals, huge fart pipe and a douchebag kid driving it.
Not the point of the thread. The point of the thread was whether or not hellaflush can be done right, ie, keeping performance and safety.

True "hellaflush" will be less safe and have lower performance limits than properly fitted and setup wheel/tire/suspension setups. So the answer is no as explained already.

I personally think the VIP, hella flush, etc crap is really really retarded but at the same time I don't give a crap what others do with their cars as long as it doesn't affect me any. The bad part is, some of these hellaflush setups can affect your life because some of them ARE dangerous.

If it's a show car, have the wheels at 80 degree camber for all I care.
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I don't personally like the look but people should do whatever they want and like, it is their car and money.

I just think it is silly he says if he hits a kid with his car because he dangerously modified it he would "feel bad". Certain trends seem to have more of certain types of people, that's all.
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HELLA GAY


Yeah, buy a performance car and degrade it because you want people to think you look cool? Also be sure to never keep more than 1 hand on the steering wheel. When an intelligent and car oriented person sees hellaflush they think you are hella a tool.

if you want to make your brz hewwwafwush go ahead and be sure to slit your wrists and jump in a warm bath.
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I see it as the exact same thing. I think the amount of hate comes from the fact that this look is anti performance and really more of a fashion statement. This is a forum for a car focused on being a drivers car so I think most of us are focused on the driving characteristics and setups like this are almost an insult to how we think as driving enthusiasts.
Yeah that is true. I personally wouldn't hack up my suspension so that it's tucking w/a camber and put air bags but those who are into the hellaflush look, do focus on keeping it clean and simple.

This is probably as far as I would go and for the FR-S, 2.5" would be pushing it. Nice wheel and tire combo with a semi aggressive offset, nothing too stretched.

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Ok guys, even if you don't care much for different car cultures. At least be respectful to others especially if you disagree with their views and tastes. Telling people they are stupid/retarded/silly for liking different things is stretching my tolerance.

Its clear that the stance movement is a culture, encompassing;(Oni Cars, HellaFlush, Hellapoke, VIP, and others i forget to mention) is not clearly defined or identified, only placed among a spectrum of possibilities.

Regardless of which ever defining characteristic you place on that movement. If you choose to follow, there are 3 rules Id urge you to consider.

1. Do not do anything that could endanger yourself.
2. Do not do anything that could endanger others.
3. Never assume your setup is free of rules 1 & 2.
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