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LexusFman 01-26-2012 03:01 AM

Can hellaflush be done "right"
 
Can you make a car look flush or hellaflush while retaining driveability and preformance? I know some idiots in the Hellaflush scene do stupid shit like cut springs and put rediculous ammounts of camber they can't control on their cars but I don't see why, if a combination of good quality parts and planning, one couldn't make a Hellaflush car be just as safe as stock if not more (minus stretched tires, they don't belong anywhere other than car shows). I'm asking because I really like the hellaflush look but I don't want to compromise saftey to do it. If I hit some little kid just cause my car was hellagay, id feel bad and saftey is starting to factor more in my vehicle selection.

Giccin 01-26-2012 03:08 AM

With my speeding habits. I personally don't think hellaflush can ever be done right. :P

Scrappppppeeeeeee.

#87 01-26-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusFman (Post 121554)
Can you make a car look flush or hellaflush while retaining driveability and preformance? I know some idiots in the Hellaflush scene do stupid shit like cut springs and put rediculous ammounts of camber they can't control on their cars but I don't see why, if a combination of good quality parts and planning, one couldn't make a Hellaflush car be just as safe as stock if not more (minus stretched tires, they don't belong anywhere other than car shows). I'm asking because I really like the hellaflush look but I don't want to compromise saftey to do it. If I hit some little kid just cause my car was hellagay, id feel bad and saftey is starting to factor more in my vehicle selection.

I thought hellaflush meant cambered wheels that extend past the wheel well with stretched tires? They basically try to fit the widest wheel possible and set the car at the lowest height while still being able to "drive", no?

But anyway you sound stupid based on the bolded part above so just slam it and rub and scrape all day err day, if you don't crack an oil pan you are doing it wrong.

old greg 01-26-2012 03:23 AM

Yes, but by the time you fix all the idiotic crap involved in Hellaflush, it's not really Hellatrendy anymore. There's the obvious stuff like the excessive camber and stretched tires. But if you actually want your mods to improve handling you're going to have issues with the 2"+ drop in height. It's going to play holy hell with your suspension geometry, there's a good thread covering this in the Suspension forum. You'd need either drop spindles or extended ball joints to mitigate some of that. But the most important thing is to make sure you've still got adequate suspension travel, I can't stress that enough. And also, you'd want to stay away from huge wheels with rubberband tires: Keep it above ~40 series.

But at that point, you've got a well modded car with aggressive wheel fitment, which isn't particularly "Hellaflush".


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Originally Posted by #87 (Post 121558)
you sound stupid ... if you don't crack an oil pan you are doing it wrong.

Oh, the irony.

LexusFman 01-26-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie (Post 121627)
You can run low offset wheels to push your tires out farther and trim your fender/quarter lips so they don't rub. You can run drop spindles so you can get low without compromising suspension geometry. You can align your car so that you're actually maximizing contact patch. You can run appropriate sized rubber.

Congratulations, you now have a car that looks appropriate. Flushtards will hate it.

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...1305003099.jpg

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...4e2e6245_o.jpg
(This car has the same tire sizes as a stock ZR1)

That's flush enough for me! That's basically hellaflush without the neon colored wheels and bike rack(wtf? If you have a bike it makes sense but still). I think a lot of people confuse hellaflush with demon camber. Any cambered car can't be considered truly hellaflush since camber, toe, and caster aren't flush. And I still don't understand people streeting stretched tires. It dosent take much to know stretched tires aren't streetable.

WingsofWar 01-26-2012 02:10 PM

yes...lets not mistake Oni Cars as the same as the Stance Movement

Oni Car
http://www.snegidhi.com/2010/99-07-05/oni_camber_08.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/...e1c906d81c.jpg

WingsofWar 01-26-2012 02:30 PM

:bellyroll:

Guff 01-26-2012 02:49 PM

Hellaflush is like those Oni Cars, what LSx posted is NOT Hellaflush, it's Well Fitted Wheels. Let's not confuse the two...

mastawyrm 01-26-2012 03:10 PM

Seems to me the definition of hella flush is to have broken/screwed up suspension with a tire/wheel combo thats just plain incorrect. So no I don't believe there is a right way to have a broken car.

WingsofWar 01-26-2012 03:13 PM

fittment.......such a loose term now days.....

tranzformer 01-26-2012 03:15 PM

Can hellaflush be done "right" is an oxymoron. A properly done suspension wheel/suspension combo is properly done and not hellaflush.

Dragonitti 01-26-2012 03:16 PM

Well fitted wheels > Hella(can't drive properly)flush.

Ryuu0u 01-26-2012 03:22 PM

If i'm not mistaken that S2k is bagged which is a waste imo.
Another thing about this hellaflush is that it's cool to have messed up body work due to your setup? So in turn having a crappy looking car is cool?
I'd rock a flush VIP car though. Let's also address what the hell "stance" is because that crap confuses me also as to what it is.

I love the Z and vette above though, proper fitment that looks performance oriented.

#87 01-26-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryuu0u (Post 121795)
If i'm not mistaken that S2k is bagged which is a waste imo.
Another thing about this hellaflush is that it's cool to have messed up body work due to your setup? So in turn having a crappy looking car is cool?
I'd rock a flush VIP car though. Let's also address what the hell "stance" is because that crap confuses me also as to what it is.

I love the Z and vette above though, proper fitment that looks performance oriented.

The term stance to me is not associated with the hellaflush movement. IMO it is subjective and refers to the overall look of the car. For example I would say the BRZ STI has a very good, but not perfect, stance and the stock BRZ is a meh stance.


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