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Old 02-12-2013, 01:04 PM   #15
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Like everyone else has said keep practicing. I'm in the same boat with 2nd. Sometimes it's good sometimes not so much but this is my first manual and I learned in it so keep at it because it's that much more rewarding when you everything clicks in place.

Also once your car is a bit more broken in you may be able to feel the catching point a bit more. My clutch feels way different from when I first got it (though could just be all the practicing too, lol. I'm At 2700 currently today)
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:39 PM   #16
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Just more practice man. Got to find the right release point in the clutch while applying gas. The more you drive, the better you'll get at it.

Don't worry so much about accelerating faster cause of the people behind you. They can either wait or switch lanes. Focus and feel your your clutch.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:49 PM   #17
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I've found it helpful to lift my heel up and bend at the knee slightly when releasing the clutch. I dunno why, but the ankle-pivot throws me off sometimes. I'm planning to do the clutch mod as soon as I get a nice warm day to play with it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:05 PM   #18
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This is my first MT also and the 1-to-2 shift is something I still can't get right all the time. Any other up-shift is no problem.

I had to develop a whole separate technique for the 1-to-2 and in the process, I learned that it actually makes the other shifts better as well... lol

In other words: practice and experience.
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It was about 1500k befor I got the hang of it and still do it from time to time. As long as your still only shaky and not stalling your doing good. But simply try to have it at atleast 1500 rpm befor you let the clutch out enough to grab.


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Old 02-12-2013, 07:36 PM   #20
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This is my first MT also and the 1-to-2 shift is something I still can't get right all the time. Any other up-shift is no problem.

I had to develop a whole separate technique for the 1-to-2 and in the process, I learned that it actually makes the other shifts better as well... lol

In other words: practice and experience.
Today I test drove the FR-S and I must say that even I had a hard time getting use to the clutch. The clutch on this car is VERY soft compared to the one in my Prelude. Took me awhile to get use to it. Make sure you practice and try not to gas it above 1500RPM while releasing the clutch.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:49 PM   #21
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This is my first MT also and the 1-to-2 shift is something I still can't get right all the time. Any other up-shift is no problem.

I had to develop a whole separate technique for the 1-to-2 and in the process, I learned that it actually makes the other shifts better as well... lol

In other words: practice and experience.
plz direct your attention here. the first to second gear shift is common for all our mts. you can read this thread or continue to work too hard to shift in and out of second. good luck
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=gear+synchro
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:59 PM   #22
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plz direct your attention here. the first to second gear shift is common for all our mts. you can read this thread or continue to work too hard to shift in and out of second. good luck
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=gear+synchro
do you have pentosin in your tranny? i noticed that you're in socal also and was debating on which fluids to swap in. I assumed that it doesn't get that cold down here compared to other regions therefore I thought thinner fluids wouldn't be necessary.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:20 PM   #23
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do you have pentosin in your tranny? i noticed that you're in socal also and was debating on which fluids to swap in. I assumed that it doesn't get that cold down here compared to other regions therefore I thought thinner fluids wouldn't be necessary.
the thing is cold is subjective, but not for this car, imo under 50 its a pain to get into second. even when its warm like 80 outside getting in and out of second is still vastly too rough. im in oc, if youd like to drive my car to see the buttery smoothness yourself ill show you.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:42 PM   #24
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The 1-2 shift in this car is abnormally tricky to get completely smooth. I think it has to do with the fact that the ratios between the two gears are so far apart you could drive a truck through them, mixed with the revs not falling off quickly enough after you depress the clutch. (It holds them for just a second after you press the clutch, and it pisses me off)
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practice practice practice ..then do the mod. It's worth it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:04 PM   #26
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I must be getting old. I saw "Jerky / shaky sharts"

Don't overthink it, that's what usually causes it and prolongs the learning curve. Eventually, with enough practice it will all fall into place for you.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:08 AM   #27
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The car has an awkward clutch plain and simple. 1st gear is tough to get smooth regardless of your practice with the car or manual transmission experience
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I was dropping off my girlfriend today, and I was low on gas, so I figured that I would grab a tank, and then on my way home, I decided to have some fun, and play around with starts from a complete stop and shifting into second.

Now personally, the way I found it easiest to get consistent, smooth, starts from a complete stop is too try and keep your RPMs as close to 1000 as possible until you fully disengage the clutch (should happen around 6MPH), and then you give it a little gas. Blipping the throttle or easing out the clutch before giving it gas generally wound up in rough starts.

As for 1st to 2nd, it's still a work in progress for me. I generally wait for the RPMs to drop a bit while fully depressing the clutch, if I'm consciously thinking about it; however, I never consciously think about it whilst driving.

That's just my sub-500 miles experience. I'm sure I'll have a revelation, but I did find I drove better after having a beer. Please take that advice with a grain of salt, I'm not encouraging driving with alcohol in your system, but it helps to take the edge off.
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