Durable Wheels !

[ichitaka05]

I do have TC105N and use it for autox and trackx for... over 5yrs (give or take) and haven't had a single issue.

With that said, Weds or Grams aren't cheap. If you gonna use it for daily I would recommend Enkei wheels. Enkei Performance & Tuning are cheap, but pretty well made. I have Enkei Raijin for summer and Enkei VR5 for winter. I've hit the fence & scraped one of Raijin and had to replace it, but it wasn't that expensive to hurt my wallet. Raijin I've scraped still hold the air perfectly fine, but visually doesn't look good... so replaced it. My wife have Enkei T6S and daily and don't have any single issue. Raijin, VR5 & T6S might not be lightest wheels out there, but light enough to race and strong enough to daily.

My concept for daily wheels, if you need to replace one wheel, can you replace it asap without kill your bank.

That's my 2 yen.

[wparsons]

6 years on my RPF1's, daily street use and tons of track time. Toronto area roads have lots of pot holes, wheels are still dead straight.

[Feistyfrog]

Originally Posted by Vital

Check out Konig's Flowformed wheels

I agree with Vital. If you want solid wheels without paying the price of forged ones, flowformed are your best bet. Nothing against the RPF1 but technology does better wheels now.

I had some Konig's on my previous car and they stayed straight throught dozens of big potholes over the years. I've even had a serious one that popped a bubble on the side the tire (Toyo tires, never again), but the rim didn't bent.

I went with the flowformed Superspeed RF03RR on my 86, but they are plenty of brands doing flowforned now.

You should also check those 720form GTF2 wheels. They were my second choice.

Anyway, keep us updated when you're done choosing.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Enkei RPF1 are flow formed wheels. That's the Enkei's MAT process.

RPF1s are not what I'd call "the most durable wheels" but they're fine. I run them in the winter in Baltimore. There are plenty more durable wheels out there that are of course heavier.

- Andrew

[Glitchy86]

I really appreciate everyone's comment. But man never thought picking a wheel will be this hard.

Sadly can't get Konig wheels coz FT86speedfactory don't have them.

I guess I'll just roll the dice and pick one of the 3 wheels I listed and hope for the best.

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[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Glitchy86

Sadly can't get Konig wheels coz FT86speedfactory don't have them.

Why does that matter? Why can't you get them elsewhere, like America's Tire?

[Glitchy86]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Why does that matter? Why can't you get them elsewhere, like America's Tire?

Coz I have 300$ as a gift card with them. That's why I can only get the wheels from them

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[eastendraceshop]

I previously ran a set of 17x8 Enkei RPF1's on my FRS. They felt great to drive with Michelin PSS tires, super light compared to stock, but 6 months after buying them, two of them broke. I was driving onto the freeway and the entrance had two lanes. The truck to my left turned into my lane and I turned to the right to avoid getting hit. Both wheels on the passenger side hit the same pothole on the side of the road at around 50mph, and both the front and rear wheels were damaged beyond repair.

They aren't a bad wheel at all, I loved them. But they are flow-formed and aren't the strongest out there.



Now I'm running Speedwell forged wheels and you can pick up a set of four Speedwell RS-R wheels in 18x9.5 +40 for under $350/wheel with our special forum pricing. They are fully forged, lightweight, and are backed with a lifetime structural warranty, and hub centric! Load rating on these wheels is at 690kg per wheel, and you won't get a better price out there for fully forged wheels! If you're looking for something durable and won't break the bank, these are your best option for under $1,400/set. They weigh in at 18.9lbs each.

We do ship to Saudi Arabia. We also take out these wheels on the track almost every other weekend in our shop IS-F, and I've been driving on Speedwell wheels for the last 20k + miles.

-Sam

[Glitchy86]

Originally Posted by eastendraceshop

I previously ran a set of 17x8 Enkei RPF1's on my FRS. They felt great to drive with Michelin PSS tires, super light compared to stock, but 6 months after buying them, two of them broke. I was driving onto the freeway and the entrance had two lanes. The truck to my left turned into my lane and I turned to the right to avoid getting hit. Both wheels on the passenger side hit the same pothole on the side of the road at around 50mph, and both the front and rear wheels were damaged beyond repair.

They aren't a bad wheel at all, I loved them. But they are flow-formed and aren't the strongest out there.



Now I'm running Speedwell forged wheels and you can pick up a set of four Speedwell RS-R wheels in 18x9.5 +40 for under $350/wheel with our special forum pricing. They are fully forged, lightweight, and are backed with a lifetime structural warranty, and hub centric! Load rating on these wheels is at 690kg per wheel, and you won't get a better price out there for fully forged wheels! If you're looking for something durable and won't break the bank, these are your best option for under $1,400/set. They weigh in at 18.9lbs each.

We do ship to Saudi Arabia. We also take out these wheels on the track almost every other weekend in our shop IS-F, and I've been driving on Speedwell wheels for the last 20k + miles.

-Sam

Ouch that pic of the RPF1's hurts. Those Speedwell wheels looks great btw.

Sadly I can't make a purchase from you guys this time, as I have a gift card with FT86speedfactory and have to make the purchase through them.

But hey I'll consider your website for future purchases.

Thanks.

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[why?]

Originally Posted by churchx

Not so sure on "worth it". If buying new, i'd strongly disagree. Well, in one way is - if you buy those forged wheels used, at fraction of price. Though choices of specific sizings might be limited.

it totally depends on you you mean by worth it. Having wheels you never have to worry about is worth it to me. Now if you are going to always change wheels or not keep the car long term, that might be a different story. But for my piece of mind, have wheels that I most likely would never ever damage was great.

Originally Posted by Glitchy86

Coz I have 300$ as a gift card with them. That's why I can only get the wheels from them

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Call them. Use skype or something like that to make it less expensive. I am sure they can get a ton more stuff than is on their webpage.

[churchx]

why?: forged wheels are NOT of "never worry". AFAIK they are on average ~20-25% stronger vs cast wheels of same weight. But it's no magic bullet, and forged wheels also can be damaged (and in such case not only initial purchase cost matter, but also how much replacement wheel will cost). Even more so that often forged wheel manufacturers target customers that prioritize wheel weight, thus they more often make/sell not wheels of same weight but stronger, but rather instead of same strength but lighter.
I'd say that if one worries that much about wheel damage, just get any rally wheel. Yes heavy, but stong AF. Yes, at expense of extra weight, but they will be even stronger then most forged wheels, made with lightness in mind. Due being cast, cost will be reasonable. And there are several known manufacturers of such on both side of pond, simplifying/cheapening costs further, by making expensive overseas shipment redundant. My own choice was .. forged wheels , that i bought for 1/4th the price of new, due them being used . But i wouldn't bet that eg. my current 6.2kg forged wheels are stronger then for example OE 9.1kg wheels, i'd rather think that they might be comparably strong.

[re-animator]

its not just cast vs flow formed vs forged, but also wheel design. generally more material/bracing out near the barrel is going to mean a stronger wheel. RPF1s have a little more gap between spokes than most wheels because of the emphasis on lightness. RPF1s came from Formula 1 where the tires have massive sidewalls - wheel rigidity is still obviously very important from a performance standpoint at those speeds but the barrel integrity is not the primary goal. in addition, the offset and concavity is going to be important. Generally more aggressive offsets and greater concavity give up something in terms of wheel strength - maybe doesn't matter as much on forged wheels that are already stronger, but on a car like ours where you can choose between a moderate offset 18x8 vs an aggressive offset in the same size you are giving up something.

i haven't done too much research on this but these are the types of wheel designs i expect to be strongest just by virtue of design (assuming we are all talking wheels of a similar construction method). They are common in motorsport and some of them even come from rally designs: BBS CH-R, RS, Enkei RS05RR, NT03+m or NT03RR, RCT4, PF05, obviously Volk TE37 and CE28, OZ ultraleggera, Work MC0 and D9R, Weds tc105, etc.

If i was going to rank the wheels on ft86speedfactory on my own perceived strength and rigidity i would do something like this (someone feel free to correct me):

1. top tier forged wheels - TE37s, ZE40s, CE28s, Advan GT
2. racing focused flow-formed wheels - Enkei RR line, Work MC0, Advan RG and RZ
3. weds tc105s, work d9rs, SSR gtx01, nt03+m
4. heavier cast and flow formed wheels - Gramlights 57xtreme, 57dr/cr, work cr kai or t7r
5. lighter or non-racing focused flow formed wheels - RPF1s, enkei raijin or t6s, tsw nurburgring, 949 6ul,
6. office swivel chair wheels
7. xxr, cosmis, etc


If you are in the RPF1 type price range i think the strongest wheels you are going to get for the similar money are going to be either NT03+Ms (which have 12 spokes and the bracing ring near the perimeter and come in enkei's conservative offsets). the cast gramlights look strong too but they tend to run heavier and the offsets are more aggressive (mimicing a forged wheel). I have been riding on enkei raijins for years and have been very pleased with how strong they are - they are considerably heavier than RPF1s but have the same flow forming process and cost about the same - i've run autox and have also hit some potholes at speed that i thought would be game over but so far they are still perfectly straight.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by eastendraceshop

I previously ran a set of 17x8 Enkei RPF1's on my FRS. They felt great to drive with Michelin PSS tires, super light compared to stock, but 6 months after buying them, two of them broke. I was driving onto the freeway and the entrance had two lanes. The truck to my left turned into my lane and I turned to the right to avoid getting hit. Both wheels on the passenger side hit the same pothole on the side of the road at around 50mph, and both the front and rear wheels were damaged beyond repair.

They aren't a bad wheel at all, I loved them. But they are flow-formed and aren't the strongest out there.



Now I'm running Speedwell forged wheels and you can pick up a set of four Speedwell RS-R wheels in 18x9.5 +40 for under $350/wheel with our special forum pricing. They are fully forged, lightweight, and are backed with a lifetime structural warranty, and hub centric! Load rating on these wheels is at 690kg per wheel, and you won't get a better price out there for fully forged wheels! If you're looking for something durable and won't break the bank, these are your best option for under $1,400/set. They weigh in at 18.9lbs each.

We do ship to Saudi Arabia. We also take out these wheels on the track almost every other weekend in our shop IS-F, and I've been driving on Speedwell wheels for the last 20k + miles.

-Sam

The fact that they bent like that and didn't crack proves they're a much better option than A LOT of wheels out there. The cheap pure cast ones would've shattered on a hit like that. I'll bet even a purely forged wheel still would've had a lot of damage, and you'd be out a lot more money in replacements.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by re-animator

If i was going to rank the wheels on ft86speedfactory on my own perceived strength and rigidity i would do something like this (someone feel free to correct me):

I would not rank wheels based on perceived strength, and I certainly wouldn't post it on here because you are definitely going to piss someone off.

- Andrew