Oil Cooler Comparisons? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tyler_win_photo · 11-07-2017, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointmutation

Why no Mishimoto on this list? Just started researching oil coolers recently too.

Make sure you get the updated version. The older versions were known to leak

Azzudien · 11-07-2017, 06:50 AM

If you get a 2017 manual BRZ, remember Jackson Racing oil cooler will not clear the air box.

Sgtfluffy16 · 01-19-2019, 02:58 PM

I know I'm Reviving a dead old thread. But I am tracking the car this year. What are your thoughts now on the oil cooler kits that are out there. Or what about this one?

https://www.nedautoparts.com/product...nt=25891388432

Ultramaroon · 01-19-2019, 03:22 PM

Just get the correctly-sized traditional Jackson and call it a day.

https://jacksonracing.com/product/fr...il-cooler-kit/

Sgtfluffy16 · 01-19-2019, 03:28 PM

Because I feel like there are a ton of better options out there than the Jackson Racing one.

Ultramaroon · 01-19-2019, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16

Because I feel like there are a ton of better options out there than the Jackson Racing one.

Like?

Sgtfluffy16 · 01-19-2019, 03:37 PM

Multiple

Oem "ish" option https://www.nedautoparts.com/product...nt=25891388432

More cooling capability https://maximalperformance.com/produ...er-kit-frsbrz/

OwlDance · 01-19-2019, 04:48 PM

You literally just bumped another thread that literally discussed those options for you and then some...

Guess I ended up reading the thread for you because the DIT kit is good enough for spirited driving on NA power, not track. Here's the first thing that comes up on google. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93127

The poster of the Maximal kit said it was decent enough for NA tracking and even posted a datalog of it. Said you should go heavier duty on cooling if FI, which you stated you had. Everyone else more or less pointed to Jackson, RacerX, and Mishimoto.

With the assumption you want "best bang for buck" as the parameter for "BETTER" just get a heavier duty oil cooler from any of those mentioned options since you're on forced induction dude, which means more heat and more potential for damage on the engine without adequate cooling. That, purportedly, neither the DIT nor Maximal can provide for FI. It's not rocket science. You put thousands of dollars into an engine and car, why skimp on merely one of the most important aspects of vehicle protection and maintenance?

ZDan · 01-19-2019, 05:54 PM

You could send oil sample to Blackstone, run a track event or two without a cooler, then send another sample and see if oil is still ok and if there excess of bearing material or other particulates indicating undue wear. If all is OK with 2nd sample, maybe no oil cooler needed...

Full credit to Bonburner for this straight-to-the-bloody-point easily implemented ideer, see post #56 from this thread: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...=132041&page=4

Ultramaroon · 01-19-2019, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16

Multiple

Oem "ish" option https://www.nedautoparts.com/product...nt=25891388432

More cooling capability https://maximalperformance.com/produ...er-kit-frsbrz/

In terms of heat transfer rate those two range between laughable and too small, respectively. ZDan is on point but if you're going to go to the trouble, you might as well do it properly.

Sgtfluffy16 · 01-19-2019, 06:02 PM

Full race is another one i was looking at

ayau · 01-19-2019, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtfluffy16

Full race is another one i was looking at

The OEM Forester XT oil cooler is only marginally better than no oil cooler. I would not bother. It's only on the turbo Subaru cars to decrease the oil warm up times.

How often are you planning to track your car and what's your experience level? You might be able to get away with no cooler if you're only going to see the track 1-2 times a year and have little to no track experience.

Running a proper oil cooler, such as the Jackson cooler, just means your oil is going to take a long time to reach operating temp in the winter, and you'll have additional points of failures.

Sgtfluffy16 · 01-19-2019, 06:54 PM

I have five events already scheduled this year, and looking to add possibly three or four more. again, I'm not going with the Jackson Racing one. I've already looked into the fact of getting oil coolers. But one that has a thermostatic switch. The other thing is I put my car away from November 15th to February 15th every year

Located in central Pennsylvania so it doesn't get super cold when I am driving the car

x808drifter · 01-19-2019, 07:10 PM

01-19-2019, 03:22 PM	#18
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,395 Thanks: 53,053 Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts Mentioned: 1118 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Just get the correctly-sized traditional Jackson and call it a day. https://jacksonracing.com/product/fr...il-cooler-kit/ __________________ service manuals

01-19-2019, 05:54 PM	#23
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,012 Times in 2,098 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You could send oil sample to Blackstone, run a track event or two without a cooler, then send another sample and see if oil is still ok and if there excess of bearing material or other particulates indicating undue wear. If all is OK with 2nd sample, maybe no oil cooler needed... Full credit to Bonburner for this straight-to-the-bloody-point easily implemented ideer, see post #56 from this thread: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...=132041&page=4 Last edited by ZDan; 01-19-2019 at 06:14 PM.

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OwlDance Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Drives: Halo 86, '19 Location: NY Posts: 121 Thanks: 88 Thanked 95 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You literally just bumped another thread that literally discussed those options for you and then some... Guess I ended up reading the thread for you because the DIT kit is good enough for spirited driving on NA power, not track. Here's the first thing that comes up on google. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93127 The poster of the Maximal kit said it was decent enough for NA tracking and even posted a datalog of it. Said you should go heavier duty on cooling if FI, which you stated you had. Everyone else more or less pointed to Jackson, RacerX, and Mishimoto. With the assumption you want "best bang for buck" as the parameter for "BETTER" just get a heavier duty oil cooler from any of those mentioned options since you're on forced induction dude, which means more heat and more potential for damage on the engine without adequate cooling. That, purportedly, neither the DIT nor Maximal can provide for FI. It's not rocket science. You put thousands of dollars into an engine and car, why skimp on merely one of the most important aspects of vehicle protection and maintenance?

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