Weird behaviour on cold start

[itsAlex]

I just want to state that for the record, my starting issue is nowhere near severe as some of you guys are experiencing. Look at this Youtube video:

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This guy's car won't stay running after he starts it, I've never experienced this. You notice in the video that right after the engine turns over, the rpms drop a bit. That's what happened to my car this morning, but the rpms went back up themselves, whereas in this video, his engine dies. So I think some of you have it worse compared to what I experienced...

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by itsAlex

I just want to state that for the record, my starting issue is nowhere near severe as some of you guys are experiencing. Look at this Youtube video:

This guy's car won't stay running after he starts it, I've never experienced this. You notice in the video that right after the engine turns over, the rpms drop a bit. That's what happened to my car this morning, but the rpms went back up themselves, whereas in this video, his engine dies. So I think some of you have it worse compared to what I experienced...

The difference is he's running E85, the only thing I can think of is getting the dealer to check the fuel pump under warranty and log what happens on cold starts.

[Tectoniic]

Not really sure if this helped or was placebo but ever since I started leaving it in "On" for a second or two to let the fuel pump prime before turning it over I have had smoother starts even when it was really cold and it feels like less misfires too

[Steviek]

There is a service bulletin about rough start , think it's been covered here before, mine has done it when really cold , UK dealer not got a clue, am just waiting to catch it on my dash cam so I can show them it, it sounds like an old propeller engine trying to start


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[S84kam]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is yours stock? Not pointing fingers or anything I am just curious as to how they can be so different.

Yup 100% stock.

[Nevermore]

My car had trouble starting some really cold mornings about a year or so ago. It would turnover but not start the first try (though I never held it too long). It did it a couple of times a month all winter. It bothered that a brand new car would struggle to start so I told the dealership about it and they replaced part of the camshaft, $1600 repair, under warranty. It never struggles to start now.

[FX86]

i had a few times where it seemed to struggle cranking up but the weirdest thing i experience was when it wouldn't let me shift into 6th gear (car wasn't warmed up) even when i was going over 45mph until a minute later in manual shift mode (AT)...there wasn't a arrow to shift up..only shift down...found it to be really strange and happened only once

[root]

Originally Posted by Zyo81

I had several cold start issues with mine the first year. Running rough, taking forever to crank over, also idle surging. They flashed my ecu after I printed out the tsb so they could no longer plead ignorance and since it has been much better. I think the battery is too small though. It still cranks relatively slow below freezing compared to most other cars I've had.

Where can I find a copy of that TSB? I mentioned this the first time I took my FRS in and they never did anything about it, couldn't duplicate the problem. I've ignored it and I'm approaching end of drivetrain warranty so I figure shoulf have it taken care of. Occasional hard starts (not cold, it rarely gets below 70 here), dipping idle.
They never took care of my bad window switch either, again they couldn't duplicate the problem, I didn't bother nagging them about that either. Guess I'll have to do that one myself, although I suppose I could make a stink about it.

[itsAlex]

Update:

Since I originally made this thread, I haven't experienced any issues until last night. So what's that, a year and some months?

It was -1C last night, cold but not that cold. I went to start my car, and right away it didn't sound right, it sounded like a propeller engine or something and it struggled to keep the revs up until it died. It took about 6-7 seconds for it to die. I went to crank the engine again right after and it didn't start at all. I cranked it twice, both for about 5 seconds and it cranked but no start. I made sure my foot wasn't on the gas pedal as I know some people do this by accident and think they're engine won't start. I took the key out and let it sit for about 15 seconds, went to crank it again and this time it started just fine, no stutters or hiccups.

Any similar experiences?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by itsAlex

Update:

Since I originally made this thread, I haven't experienced any issues until last night. So what's that, a year and some months?

It was -1C last night, cold but not that cold. I went to start my car, and right away it didn't sound right, it sounded like a propeller engine or something and it struggled to keep the revs up until it died. It took about 6-7 seconds for it to die. I went to crank the engine again right after and it didn't start at all. I cranked it twice, both for about 5 seconds and it cranked but no start. I made sure my foot wasn't on the gas pedal as I know some people do this by accident and think they're engine won't start. I took the key out and let it sit for about 15 seconds, went to crank it again and this time it started just fine, no stutters or hiccups.

Any similar experiences?

Maybe a few ice crystals in the gas? Doesn't take much. The pressure of the first attempt may have melted them. It is the only thing I can think of when it is so sporadic.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by itsAlex

Update:

Since I originally made this thread, I haven't experienced any issues until last night. So what's that, a year and some months?


Any similar experiences?

No, but ........

Bubba says to put a can of this in your car's gas tank ........ then move further South .......


humfrz

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

The difference is he's running E85, the only thing I can think of is getting the dealer to check the fuel pump under warranty and log what happens on cold starts.

Trouble starting in cold temps running E85 is normal, which is what I think you are saying.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Trouble starting in cold temps running E85 is normal, which is what I think you are saying.

You went too far back in the thread!

[PetrolioBenzina]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You went too far back in the thread!

Guess so.