Toyota rep at Frankfurt IAA said FT-86 weight will be 1,160kg (2,555 pounds)

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by suprachica79

I have to agree with you here Dave. I think they tried to grab too large a market share with the GC, either make it a small sports car, or a larger, higher powered sporty coupe. Instead, they took a bloated car and put in an engine that just doesn't have enough power to lug it around with the 2.0T.

I think they tried to follow a RWD sports coupe version of a Evo but with almost 100 less hp. It's still a great deal considering a Evo costs 35k and a 2.0t R-Spec costs 24.5k. I'm not into modding so I would go with the 3.8 all day everyday.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

You clearly missed the point of the 2.0t. Hyundai marketed the thing as a tuner car. And when they drop the GDI engines in next year your point will no longer make sense. It's easy for Hyundai to get power out of the 2.0t. A guy on the forum spent $1,700 on his 2.0t and ran 13.6 seconds from 15.1 seconds stock. I would love to see a N/A 2.0 liter car do that with the same money.

That's great and all, but most people don't want to void a 100,000 mile warranty right after buying a car. So that eliminates any sort of tuning to the 2.0T unless Hyundai is going to honor the warranty on modified vehicles