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PuGZoR · 11-22-2011, 11:26 PM

Agreed.

Regardless of reasoning, most people on here who've actually thought about pricing pretty hard have decided that it's got to start around the mid-30's. Accounts for low sales volumes and allows Toyota AU to keep a nice fat profit. Edging closer to 40k for a base and the market opens up to cars that are much better equipped and spec'd.

It's very logical that we're going to see ~35k for a base IMHO, although if it was a bit cheaper (maybe on road for 35k?) everyone would be absolutely cheering (and I think Toyota would have astronomical launch sales, haha).

Mr Franky · 11-23-2011, 02:34 AM

Those are the prices of between the two countries. There is a massive difference between a few of them. From there you can try and guess what the FT86 will cost. These prices are taken from the two websites as starting and RRP.

Gir · 11-23-2011, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Franky

Those are the prices of between the two countries. There is a massive difference between a few of them. From there you can try and guess what the FT86 will cost. These prices are taken from the two websites as starting and RRP.

Well if it's low 20's in the US, low 30's here is definitely possible.

JFC · 11-24-2011, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moose

05 SX Celica was priced at $39,300 & $44,700 for the ZR. Sub 30k, i think your just being unrealistic.

Not at all.

40K for a hairdressers car was a joke and a total flop for Toyota in this country. The headlights are plastic for f$#ks sake.

As i said if its not under 30k then forget bringing the thing here, it simply wont be worth it.

Nardi330 · 11-24-2011, 05:13 AM

Apparently CRZ starts at 34,990 + Orc to 40k + Orc. I hope Toyota will match this for the FT at least.

They should be able to lower still as I'd think hybrid costs more to built??!!

moose · 11-24-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JFC

Not at all.

40K for a hairdressers car was a joke and a total flop for Toyota in this country. The headlights are plastic for f$#ks sake.

As i said if its not under 30k then forget bringing the thing here, it simply wont be worth it.

I think your kidding yourself if you think that toyota will price it similar to a Polo Gti.

PuGZoR · 11-24-2011, 07:16 AM

The other side of the argument is that they can open up with a high price and go down... if they're not shifting units they can keep reducing every year until they hit the sweet spot. If they start too low, they lose the sweet profit they would have made for the suckers who've been waiting for 3 years for this car, with the potential to stretch their funds to buy one. People are willing to pay more to be first in line... the volume car manufacturers sell in launch week for any car is amazing, despite full RRP and full dealer costs.

There's also the wealthy who'll buy one because 35-40k is pocket change, and if it's a cool car with a good image, they might pick one up for their garage. So it looks like image and marketing is going to be a fair amount of win for this car.

70NYD · 11-24-2011, 07:59 AM

If this car was priced here like it will be in the states I would buy 2
Not kidding

FT-86 · 11-24-2011, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuGZoR

There's also the wealthy who'll buy one because 35-40k is pocket change, and if it's a cool car with a good image, they might pick one up for their garage. So it looks like image and marketing is going to be a fair amount of win for this car.

I doubt Toyota will ever be a good image for the wealthy...
They'll probably be looking at M3 or GTR.
I think the creator of FT-86 has always said that this will be an 'affordable tuner car'.
The wealthy wont want that!
I'm just hoping so that they dont spoil the market here....

Gir · 11-24-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330

Apparently CRZ starts at 34,990 + Orc to 40k + Orc. I hope Toyota will match this for the FT at least.

They should be able to lower still as I'd think hybrid costs more to built??!!

Also, if they put it at 40k on road, they're right in Commodore SS and Falcon XR6 Turbo territory.

Hawx · 11-24-2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gir

Also, if they put it at 40k on road, they're right in Commodore SS and Falcon XR6 Turbo territory.

Never thought about that, brightens my hopes lol

celicajim · 11-24-2011, 09:24 PM

It sounds like there will be limited numbers being produced, Low Supply and High Demand could mean they could afford to charge a bit more initially.

I remember the RX8 guys getting upset about their resale values when Mazda dropped the price of the RX8 ($55K down to $49K).
Although do Toyota reduce prices a significant amount like that at all?

Nardi330 · 11-24-2011, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gir

Also, if they put it at 40k on road, they're right in Commodore SS and Falcon XR6 Turbo territory.

yeah and also the WRX and other hot hatches.

however sport cars usually attach a premium tho.

coyote · 11-24-2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celicajim

Although do Toyota reduce prices a significant amount like that at all?

Not all price reductions are advertised to the public.

Toyota aren't king of the fleet market for no reason.

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11-22-2011, 11:26 PM	#183
PuGZoR Long time obsessor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: AE86 & depressing SUV Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 230 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Agreed. Regardless of reasoning, most people on here who've actually thought about pricing pretty hard have decided that it's got to start around the mid-30's. Accounts for low sales volumes and allows Toyota AU to keep a nice fat profit. Edging closer to 40k for a base and the market opens up to cars that are much better equipped and spec'd. It's very logical that we're going to see ~35k for a base IMHO, although if it was a bit cheaper (maybe on road for 35k?) everyone would be absolutely cheering (and I think Toyota would have astronomical launch sales, haha).

11-23-2011, 02:34 AM	#184
Mr Franky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Vehicle Location: Aust Posts: 164 Thanks: 8 Thanked 91 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Those are the prices of between the two countries. There is a massive difference between a few of them. From there you can try and guess what the FT86 will cost. These prices are taken from the two websites as starting and RRP.

11-24-2011, 05:13 AM	#187
Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Apparently CRZ starts at 34,990 + Orc to 40k + Orc. I hope Toyota will match this for the FT at least. They should be able to lower still as I'd think hybrid costs more to built??!!

11-24-2011, 07:16 AM	#189
PuGZoR Long time obsessor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: AE86 & depressing SUV Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 230 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The other side of the argument is that they can open up with a high price and go down... if they're not shifting units they can keep reducing every year until they hit the sweet spot. If they start too low, they lose the sweet profit they would have made for the suckers who've been waiting for 3 years for this car, with the potential to stretch their funds to buy one. People are willing to pay more to be first in line... the volume car manufacturers sell in launch week for any car is amazing, despite full RRP and full dealer costs. There's also the wealthy who'll buy one because 35-40k is pocket change, and if it's a cool car with a good image, they might pick one up for their garage. So it looks like image and marketing is going to be a fair amount of win for this car.

11-24-2011, 09:24 PM	#194
celicajim Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: ZZT231 Celica Location: Australia Posts: 65 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It sounds like there will be limited numbers being produced, Low Supply and High Demand could mean they could afford to charge a bit more initially. I remember the RX8 guys getting upset about their resale values when Mazda dropped the price of the RX8 ($55K down to $49K). Although do Toyota reduce prices a significant amount like that at all?

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