Deletion of Spare Wheel.

[DanMac]

I think you should all cancel your orders! :P


Then I can get mine sooner

[m0nty]

Originally Posted by coyote

I wonder how many people will really open up to Toyota through the 86. Blind Freddy can see it's just a rebadged Subaru. Time will tell how many are fooled by Tada San's little fairy tales.

Not sure if troll?

[Panman]

Originally Posted by m0nty

Not sure if troll?

491 posts, knowledgable about the car and cars generally, and a strong contributor. Not a troll, but like everyone else here possessed of an opinion. which you can either agree with or not.

I love the BRZ buyers telling people to harden up as the question doesn't affect them.

If you want to see whinging check on some of the other aussie forums, 16 plus pages already. As to comparing this to Honda forums that's meh - forums are for opinions and people are entitled to theirs.

[.dee]

Originally Posted by m0nty

I find it laughable that anyone says a full size spare was one of their main motivating factors for buying. I think no matter what was deleted people would be up in arms. Manufacturers do it all the time. Its just this time it has been done on an enthusiast car, and enthusiasts make the most noise on the internet when this stuff happens. I've informed my customers and not one of them reacted the way some of you have.

Laugh all you like, but having owned 5 BMW's in the last few years, all with a can of crap filler, and run flat tyres, I vowed to not buy a car without a proper spare.

The shit that Toyota pulled would have been somewhat acceptable had they been upfront about it, but instead they mislead customers.

So for what it's worth, I am seriously considering swapping my order for the new A45 amg. I'm sure this will make sweet fuck all difference to them, but I have principles and it'll make sleep better at night...

Also, whomever was in charge of this decision should be sacked, in fact the line manager as well, such bad PR over misshandling of this...

[fuddbutter]

Originally Posted by Panman

I love the BRZ buyers telling people to harden up as the question doesn't affect them.

I honestly wouldn't care if Subi scrapped the spare.
as i have said before, i am going to pull it out and stick it in the garage and put in some tyre in a can.
if they scrapped it and put the tyre in the can in it would save me money!

Remove the spare - 25-30kg right there saved from the weight of the car, also lowers the centre of gravity more.
makes moving the battery to the boot better for weight distribution. blah blah blah.

Plus like many others on here, ill probably change the wheels anyway.
maybe Toyota/subi should sell the car less wheels...

But seriously, this is the internet. whinging on here is not going to get you far, ring up your dealer and talk to them.
also, as i have said previously, the document posted is for internal use only, it has not been released to the public yet.
things may change. just calm the fuck down and worry about more important things in your life.

[Panman]

Originally Posted by fuddbutter

I honestly wouldn't care if Subi scrapped the spare.
as i have said before, i am going to pull it out and stick it in the garage and put in some tyre in a can.
if they scrapped it and put the tyre in the can in it would save me money!

Remove the spare - 25-30kg right there saved from the weight of the car, also lowers the centre of gravity more.
makes moving the battery to the boot better for weight distribution. blah blah blah.

Plus like many others on here, ill probably change the wheels anyway.
maybe Toyota/subi should sell the car less wheels...

But seriously, this is the internet. whinging on here is not going to get you far, ring up your dealer and talk to them.
also, as i have said previously, the document posted is for internal use only, it has not been released to the public yet.
things may change. just calm the fuck down and worry about more important things in your life.

Excellent feel free to donate your spare to someone who does want it then

They'll probably be happy to give you a repair kit in exchange

[coyote]

Originally Posted by m0nty

Not sure if troll?

Completely serious, but my comment was in relation to these posts, which I probably should have quoted:

Originally Posted by Elephantoplasty

The irony is that for the first time in a long time, people who have never purchased a Toyota, or even considered one, are buying one.

Now, Toyota could have thought "let's impress these new customers with our quality of service, customer care, product support, integrity etc., so that they'll want to buy another Toyota in the future".

But no, instead they are going "bugger them - we can sell more 86's than we can make, so let's nail the customer's nuts to the floor and squeeze even the contracted buyers for all they are worth".

Sure, people will still buy the 86, but instead of it being a good experience, they'll be hoping to never have anything to do with Toyota ever again.

Spectacularly short sighted of Toyota - this car has given them a shot at a whole new group of first time Toyota buyers, and instead Toyota are working hard to alienate their new-found customers.

I'll still buy GTS that is on order, when it eventually turns up, and I'll be wishing I had ordered the BRZ.

Originally Posted by primetime

THIS - is it - I am a first time Toyota buyer with the purchase of the 86 GTS and the move of taking something out of the vehicle does not exactly encourage me to recommend Toyota to my friends and families, much less purchase other Toyota in the future.

It is not so much the issue of missing a spare wheel - but for those who think that we're making mountains out of mole hill - do consider those that use the car as a daily and a spare wheel is an absolute must for them.

Now although I don't buy into the marketing hype, I do hope it works for Toyota. Once people receive their cars and can buy a spare for a few hundred dollars should they feel the need, I doubt this issue will have a bearing either way though.

[AUmarvin]

Country roads (where you can actually drive a car properly), no mobile coverage = must have spare.

I would be annoyed, esp as it was on the specs when i ordered, and is one of the factors leading to a deposit. I have already expressed my hope to Subaru that they do not follow the Toyota lead.

[coyote]

Originally Posted by AUmarvin

I would be annoyed

Understandably so. Value has been removed after you have done the deal to purchase a car in the belief it comes with a spare.

However TMCA are running a business and they've evidently made a business decision that they can remove that value and still be successful. In hindsight they may wish they'd never included the spare in the first place, or perhaps they always intended to delete it after Subaru announced their offering. We'll never know.

Whether they expect the people with existing orders to just wear it or they do something else, time will tell.

I'll be selling 4 or 5 spares, plus perhaps a mat (depending upon whether or not mine is deleted). Whether I get a spare or not, I'm happy that it'll be easier to sell my stock wheels, effectively reducing the price of car.

I can fully appreciate that others may take a different view.

[JDMSushi]

Welcome to the world of 2 wheels fellas

Where puncture repair kits are part of life

[AUmarvin]

I'll be selling 4 or 5 spares,

Which wheels will you be selling stock GT or GTS? I may want a set of GT wheels for a few dirt roads

[coyote]

Originally Posted by AUmarvin

Which wheels will you be selling stock GT or GTS? I may want a set of GT wheels for a few dirt roads

Sorry mate, GTS.

[Psoo2010]

Sigh....

[pr0j]

lol @ first world problems, 'can't decide what to eat, too much food in the fridge'