New rumor: 1.6-liter turbocharged engine one year after initial introduction

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by joshtimber

Is it really a rumor or a fact?

Subaru has stated (repeatedly) that there is no intention of ever putting a turbo engine in the BRZ. That could change of course but it likely won't be for awhile.

[Andy]

BS on the Turbo, they have repeatedly said NO Turbo, same as Toyota!

[Hounddub]

They are going to embrace the aftermarket tuning businesses for the wild versions.....I assure you.

[SanDiegoFRS]

I may consider jumping off a bridge if next year is a turbo...

[BadMoon]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoFRS

I may consider jumping off a bridge if next year is a turbo...

I've already told my wife if they come out with a turbo version this one is getting traded in. No biggie here. I will enjoy the car I have and if they turbo it And if they don't turbo it

Either way I will love the ride.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

I've already told my wife if they come out with a turbo version this one is getting traded in. No biggie here. I will enjoy the car I have and if they turbo it And if they don't turbo it

Either way I will love the ride.

Lol, and u lose thousands in depreciation. Say 27k after tax out the door. 2 years old, 30k miles. Those car can be found used for 18-19k. Deduct the paperwork at the dealer, they probably trade your in at 13-14k max.

So you lose 13-14k for 2 years fun. Well, not bad, that is only 550-650 a month out the window. You can afford it.

The biggest item you will loose here is Tax. First purchase, you pId 2300+ into tax. Second purchase, you will likely lose another 3000 in tax....or 5000+ tax alone. Well no big deal. 200-300 a month, that is nothing.

[bakerr6]

holy threadbump batman

[BadMoon]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Lol, and u lose thousands in depreciation. Say 27k after tax out the door. 2 years old, 30k miles. Those car can be found used for 18-19k. Deduct the paperwork at the dealer, they probably trade your in at 13-14k max.

So you lose 13-14k for 2 years fun. Well, not bad, that is only 550-650 a month out the window. You can afford it.

The biggest item you will loose here is Tax. First purchase, you pId 2300+ into tax. Second purchase, you will likely lose another 3000 in tax....or 5000+ tax alone. Well no big deal. 200-300 a month, that is nothing.

I'm glad you're so concerned about my financial situation. You don't even know what I traded in already or put down on my purchase. To be flat out blunt I find your post rather presumptuous and rude. So how about you worry about your own money? I will worry about mine.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

I'm glad you're so concerned about my financial situation. You don't even know what I traded in already or put down on my purchase. To be flat out blunt I find your post rather presumptuous and rude. So how about you worry about your own money? I will worry about mine.

I was never concerned about ur own money, rather i was concerning mine. Took that exact same thought, i did not buy an FRS yet. The fact that i am here means i am interested in FRS. But there is no point wasting money on what is out there now, and trade in later.

Though, i still appreciate the people who is willing to pay for the depreciation of the car. If there is no turbo Frs, i would purchase a used one, and save my money

[BadMoon]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

I was never concerned about ur own money, rather i was concerning mine. Took that exact same thought, i did not buy an FRS yet. The fact that i am here means i am interested in FRS. But there is no point wasting money on what is out there now, and trade in later.

Though, i still appreciate the people who is willing to pay for the depreciation of the car. If there is no turbo Frs, i would purchase a used one, and save my money

To be honest the way I go through cars chances are in three years I will be in something different anyway.

[Apoc]

Just an observation but "Next Year" within the context of an article and post from 2011 means 2012. None of this speculation became reality.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Lol, and u lose thousands in depreciation. Say 27k after tax out the door. 2 years old, 30k miles. Those car can be found used for 18-19k. Deduct the paperwork at the dealer, they probably trade your in at 13-14k max.

So you lose 13-14k for 2 years fun. Well, not bad, that is only 550-650 a month out the window. You can afford it.

The biggest item you will loose here is Tax. First purchase, you pId 2300+ into tax. Second purchase, you will likely lose another 3000 in tax....or 5000+ tax alone. Well no big deal. 200-300 a month, that is nothing.

It's expensive trading a car in after only 2 years, but not quite as bad as you say.

I paid $28.5k out the door for my GTI. After 2 years and 20,000 miles, KBB shows it being worth $19.5k as a trade-in. So that's $9k loss, or roughly 32% of OTD price. And VW's aren't known for their resale value.

I'd say 30-32% of OTD price would be a pretty conservative estimate for 2 years in a Scion/Toyota, or about $8-9k on the FR-S.

On the tax point, in most states, you get a tax deduction on your trade-in.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Lol, and u lose thousands in depreciation. Say 27k after tax out the door. 2 years old, 30k miles. Those car can be found used for 18-19k. Deduct the paperwork at the dealer, they probably trade your in at 13-14k max.

So you lose 13-14k for 2 years fun. Well, not bad, that is only 550-650 a month out the window. You can afford it.

The biggest item you will loose here is Tax. First purchase, you pId 2300+ into tax. Second purchase, you will likely lose another 3000 in tax....or 5000+ tax alone. Well no big deal. 200-300 a month, that is nothing.

While this can vary state to state, and may apply to most cars, in this case I would say you're quite off base.

The FRS/BRZ isn't some average car like an Accord/Camry. Demand is still very high and trade-in after 1-2 years won't be close to as bad as you think. When there's a 6 month wait for a new BRZ you better believe resale on your car is higher than normal.

If a turbo model comes out I'll definitely trade up, and doubt I'll lose much in the process at all. When you trade-in a car here in NC you pay very very little in taxes and registration. And you can reuse your license plate, so no tag fees.

[504]

Toyota 86 and 1.6l is contradictory
The name of the car comes from the 86mm bore 86mm stroke which leads to 2l displacement in a 4 cylinder engine. Adding to this the slight dulling of throttle response, lag etc associated with turbos that all go against what a driver's car is meant to be.