Blown Headgasket ?

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Actually I disagree with this. Now that people are seeing how successful the twins are, Nissan and Chevrolet are looking to bring a product to market to compete. If they do well, we might see even more. And the industry in general has been putting more focus on dropping weight from the vehicles, as far as I've seen. They're still going to be heavy because of regs and whatnot, but I think they're trying to shed lbs here and there.

+1

I think we'll see several brands jumping on the bandwagon and bringing out sporty RWH coupes AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE. The price is what Toybaru has done differently. There have always been RWH sportscars at (for me at least) unaffordable prices. Putting the "86 fun" within reach of the regular Joe is groundbreaking.

IMO, the 86 could easily start a small, light, affordable, sportscar flurry like what happened in the UK in the 60's with Triumph, MG, Austin-Healey, etc.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

Cosworth has stated that this is the best flat 4 Subaru has put out in its history.

I'd like to see your source for this.


Thanks. :happy0180:

[No Limit Motorsport]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

EJ25 is known for head gasket problem (turbo is bearing problem more)... iirc Subaru did re-call on this problem.

As of the past few years head gaskets are fine, weak piston ring lands are the Achilles heal of the EJ257

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport

As of the past few years head gaskets are fine, weak piston ring lands are the Achilles heal of the EJ257

I think he was referencing the SOHC 2.5L EJ motors, which did have head gasket issues even up through the early 2000s.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I think he was referencing the SOHC 2.5L EJ motors, which did have head gasket issues even up through the early 2000s.

Thanks for understanding my "Engrish" lol

You know me too well

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Thanks for understanding my "Engrish" lol

You know me too well

Love ya babe.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Love ya babe.

... & so begin the bromance LMAO

[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by Marrk

I'd like to see your source for this.


Thanks. :happy0180:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP-HCcX9as"]The 450 HP Crawford Performance Turbo BRZ - TUNED - YouTube[/ame]

Your welcome

[regal]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Actually I disagree with this. Now that people are seeing how successful the twins are, Nissan and Chevrolet are looking to bring a product to market to compete. If they do well, we might see even more. And the industry in general has been putting more focus on dropping weight from the vehicles, as far as I've seen. They're still going to be heavy because of regs and whatnot, but I think they're trying to shed lbs here and there.

Originally Posted by Fish Eagle

+1

I think we'll see several brands jumping on the bandwagon and bringing out sporty RWH coupes AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE. The price is what Toybaru has done differently. There have always been RWH sportscars at (for me at least) unaffordable prices. Putting the "86 fun" within reach of the regular Joe is groundbreaking.

IMO, the 86 could easily start a small, light, affordable, sportscar flurry like what happened in the UK in the 60's with Triumph, MG, Austin-Healey, etc.

Very very high hoping, this car I believe to be a Swan Song to this genre, its really a throw back. I think it built momentum in the design phase due to the drifting craze which has fallen off significantly and sales are really a tiny market share. The cost to build a quality lightweight, small rwd vehicle are just much higher than a fwd. Plus as we have found out buyers want much more power.

Look at the MRS, it was a flop, really the S2k was a money loser for Honda. Even the mighty Miata is a very low volume car. I think the majority of people prefer coupe's over convertible so those aren't a great comparison, but I just don't see any auto maker that is going to take the risk that the Toyota-Subaru collaboration did.

I hope I am wrong and this car will become as popular as the EG civic did, but I really don't think the stars will align and bring another lightweight affordable rwd sport coupe anytime soon if ever. I haven't even seen any proto's besides the alpha/mazda. Nissan has given no indication, neither has Honda, and the big three have never produced a anything like the 86.

It would be interesting to see the Korean's build a 2500 lb rwd budget coupe but I think they are stuck with the more mustang like pony car Genesis.

The 86 is one of those cars that is unique and comes along every 20 years or so. That's why I bought one last labor day after waiting nearly 15 years since the last 240sx was built.

These things are special and I hope mine lasts a life-time.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]If there is 5million Subaru engines in the world (I’m sure it’s less) and let’s say 5000 have headgasket failures, that’s a 1% fail rate.

Check your math.

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by Chimpo

If one out of every one hundred cars needed engine repair (and now I'll make up numbers like you did) that was $1000 per car it's performed on (pull engine, remove timing belt, pull head, fix, reverse reverse) means $1000 of lost money per 100 cars built, which is $100000 per 1000 cars built, which is $1000000 per 10000 cars built. Suddenly a 1% failure rate adds up quick.

Your math is pretty awful. At a $1000 repair bill per car broken and a 1% failure rate that's $10 per car built or only $100,000 Per 10,000 cars built.

[Chimpo]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Your math is pretty awful. At a $1000 repair bill per car broken and a 1% failure rate that's $10 per car built or only $100,000 Per 10,000 cars built.

And I was so close! Just a factor of 10.... Reminds me of office space:

Peter Gibbons: Michael! Michael! You said the thing was gonna take two years! What happened? You said the thing was supposed to work.
Michael Bolton: Well, technically it did work.
Peter Gibbons: No it didn't!
Samir: It did not work, Michael, okay?
Michael Bolton: Okay! Okay! Okay!
Samir: Okay?
Michael Bolton: Okay! I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit! I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.
Peter Gibbons: Oh! What is this fairly mundane detail, Michael?
Michael Bolton: Okay, quit getting pissed at me, all right? This was all your idea, asshole!
Peter Gibbons: All right. Okay. All right. Let's try not to get pissed off at each other, all right? Let's just calm down. Let's try to figure this thing out together. The first thing we gotta do is we gotta close that account down before it gets any bigger.


Despite my ineptness at math, an automotive company notices a 1% failure rate. Especially on a high volume vehicle.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by regal

I hope I am wrong and this car will become as popular as the EG civic did, but I really don't think the stars will align and bring another lightweight affordable rwd sport coupe anytime soon if ever. I haven't even seen any proto's besides the alpha/mazda. Nissan has given no indication, neither has Honda, and the big three have never produced a anything like the 86.

I hope you're wrong too, but it looks like the Miata will be the only serious competitor.

The Chevy 130R is a dream that if it comes to reality and is executed well could start a revolution, rumor is the Mustang is going lighter with an ecoboost which should be entertaining, and finally the Nissan "mini-z" was also hinted at (although rumor was FWD on that one, which is ok, the Hot Hatches are quite impressive right now, at least 5 serious competitors).

Best case scenario: 86 ushers in a new era of affordable sports cars, one last hurrah of everyman fun before the self driving cars become the norm

Worst case scenario: 86 is the last centurion of a bygone era before the self driving cars become the norm

Reality will probably be somewhere in the middle, I wonder if boutique sports car manufacturers will become the norm in the future... In any case I don't think I'll have any regrets about this car

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

Your welcome

Yeah. I saw it. Crawford. Not Cosworth.