Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition vs iPhone 5

[2forme]

Originally Posted by meWant

How about HTC's new One?

This, when I had to choose between the S4 and the One. The One, won. LOL You can always improve software, but hardware is hardware. The screen, speakers, camera, and chassis won me over

[JDMenrique]

Being an Android user and having some bias, the only thing that puts me off about Apple is/was Steve Jobs(one of the business' biggest douches) and their commercials. Every ad says that every feature their phone has is "revolutionary" when the technology has been out for years. Theres nothing new about the iPhone, its future will be a copycat or me-too phone.

[s2d4]

I find this post ridiculously weird.

Saying android will give you headaches then uses personal credentials as the reason? is that like "because I just know, looks at my credentials"?

Being highly technical, surely this would be an odd effort at presenting a justifications for your choice. In saying that, there was no need for the justification as long as you are happy with it.

Originally Posted by TemeCal

If you want headaches, get an Android phone. If you want a good solid phone, get the iPhone. Heck, I'd take a Windows phone over an Android powered phone.

I absolutely love the guys who say "Android can do much more". While I tend to agree on some level, the majority of users can do just as much on an iPhone or Windows phone. For those of you that think an iPhone is just a fashion statement, or as Marky put it...a bling bling device, my guess is that you're simply regurgitating the same rhetoric that Android fans love to pin on iPhone users. You know, the one that call iPhone users uneducated idiots?

Before you say I don't know what I'm talking about...here's some of my experience over the past 20yrs:
- Sr Solaris, AIX, HPUX, Novell Netware, SCO Openserver, BSD, Linux admin
- DBA
- Computer Science degree
- Senior and Principal Software Developer in Linux and Enterprise software
- Know C, C++, Objective C, Java, PHP, Perl, Ruby, Python, etc...
- Been Director of Engineering for one of the largest companies in the world
- Own 2 software companies, one a software as a service (all Linux based), and the other mobile software (yes, I develop for both iPhone and Android).

It sounds ridiculous having to explain my credentials, but without it...I'd simply be called an idiot for choosing an iPhone. If you like to customize your home screen and play with widgets, then Android will suit you fine. Otherwise, I'd strongly suggest the iPhone. If you want to get hard core, you can always jailbreak it...run a database server, webserver, and anything else you'd like.

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by s2d4

I find this post ridiculously weird.

Saying android will give you headaches then uses personal credentials as the reason? is that like "because I just know, looks at my credentials"?

Being highly technical, surely this would be an odd effort at presenting a justifications for your choice. In saying that, there was no need for the justification as long as you are happy with it.

I really like the way you are thinking. To win a comparison argument over technicality, please bring on the points why iPhone is *technological better* than Android devices, not your personal credentials that cannot be verified over the Internet.

As many have said, nothing in iPhone is really revolutionary (well, maybe Siri..) but that is not the point I am trying to make.

Many *day-to-day* tasks that a normal person would do for his/her phone are listed already. I just add one more thing: suppose I am trying to read a normal ASCII text file in my phone, what do I need to do:

[In iPhone]
* Send it as an e-mail to myself (why sending me e-mail to myself for reading a text file?) and see the text fragmented because of the e-mail text.
* Download an app and sync the file over wifi, and then realize that the app does not support my localization?
* Argh! Try another app, and then, I had to re-sync the same frigging file again to this new app?
* Fire up the damned iTune to sync it as a book, and wait for it to finally sync it into the phone

[In Android devices with SD Card]
* Copy the file from your PC to the SD Card
* Pop in the SD Card to the phone
* Open file browser to view it with the app you want. QED

On the other hand, my daughter loves iDevices because she knows what to do by pressing all the buttons and icons and see how it goes, without knowing what are the consequences. It is like poking someone until you know they are getting angry...

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S

I really like the way you are thinking. To win a comparison argument over technicality, please bring on the points why iPhone is *technological better* than Android devices, not your personal credentials that cannot be verified over the Internet.

As many have said, nothing in iPhone is really revolutionary (well, maybe Siri..) but that is not the point I am trying to make.

Many *day-to-day* tasks that a normal person would do for his/her phone are listed already. I just add one more thing: suppose I am trying to read a normal ASCII text file in my phone, what do I need to do:

[In iPhone]
* Send it as an e-mail to myself (why sending me e-mail to myself for reading a text file?) and see the text fragmented because of the e-mail text.
* Download an app and sync the file over wifi, and then realize that the app does not support my localization?
* Argh! Try another app, and then, I had to re-sync the same frigging file again to this new app?
* Fire up the damned iTune to sync it as a book, and wait for it to finally sync it into the phone

[In Android devices with SD Card]
* Copy the file from your PC to the SD Card
* Pop in the SD Card to the phone
* Open file browser to view it with the app you want. QED

On the other hand, my daughter loves iDevices because she knows what to do by pressing all the buttons and icons and see how it goes, without knowing what are the consequences. It is like poking someone until you know they are getting angry...

Yup, that's an inherent problem with not having an exposed file system. It extends into a lot of problems with iPhones for common use scenarios. My personal favorite was my friend trying to send me an album of pictures he took with his iPhone. He didn't have a cable or computer with his iTunes account at his work so he literally had to send me 6 emails (max of 5 pictures a piece). Had he had his cable at work, and downloaded iTunes, it would have had to resync his phone to the new machine, risking erasing it to rebuild. That's why I don't really classify the iPhone as a "smartphone", because for all intents and purposes, it's not that smart LOL.

With an Android, it's a simple standard micro USB cable. Boom, done.

And Siri wasn't even developed by Apple, it was bought. They are also getting class action sued over it, because it doesn't live up to what it's marketed as.

[CSI:86]

ONE MORE MONTH TILL THE ULTIMATE ANDROID PHONE IS RELEASED!

CANT WAIT!

[2forme]

Originally Posted by CSI:86

ONE MORE MONTH TILL THE ULTIMATE ANDROID PHONE IS RELEASED!

CANT WAIT!

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[STV3]

Yes definitely go S4 Google edition. I currently have the Nexus 4 and the vanilla android OS has been the best experience yet for me as far as mobile OS's go. I'm tempted to get the S4 from Google but I'm not sure if I wanna drop the 600 for it. I'm probably going to wait it out for the Nexus 5.

[marky]

Originally Posted by STV3

Yes definitely go S4 Google edition. I currently have the Nexus 4 and the vanilla android OS has been the best experience yet for me as far as mobile OS's go. I'm tempted to get the S4 from Google but I'm not sure if I wanna drop the 600 for it. I'm probably going to wait it out for the Nexus 5.

Yeah I here you..I was was watching the live event when they showed it running stock android everyone was clapping.. Then when they announced the price 600$ for a 16GB version everyone was quiet and the room went silent haha.. Soon as that happen the guy moved on quick about another topic..

Not worth 600$+ ... I'm pretty sure they will have a ROM ported to GS3 / GS4 ... Already running 4.2 on my GS3

[2forme]

Originally Posted by marky

Yeah I here you..I was was watching the live event when they showed it running stock android everyone was clapping.. Then when they announced the price 600$ for a 16GB version everyone was quiet and the room went silent haha.. Soon as that happen the guy moved on quick about another topic..

Not worth 600$+ ... I'm pretty sure they will have a ROM ported to GS3 / GS4 ... Already running 4.2 on my GS3

I wonder if you lose all the special samsung software features in the stock version.

[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

If you want headaches, get an Android phone. If you want a good solid phone, get the iPhone. Heck, I'd take a Windows phone over an Android powered phone.

I absolutely love the guys who say "Android can do much more". While I tend to agree on some level, the majority of users can do just as much on an iPhone or Windows phone. For those of you that think an iPhone is just a fashion statement, or as Marky put it...a bling bling device, my guess is that you're simply regurgitating the same rhetoric that Android fans love to pin on iPhone users. You know, the one that call iPhone users uneducated idiots?

Before you say I don't know what I'm talking about...here's some of my experience over the past 20yrs:
- Sr Solaris, AIX, HPUX, Novell Netware, SCO Openserver, BSD, Linux admin
- DBA
- Computer Science degree
- Senior and Principal Software Developer in Linux and Enterprise software
- Know C, C++, Objective C, Java, PHP, Perl, Ruby, Python, etc...
- Been Director of Engineering for one of the largest companies in the world
- Own 2 software companies, one a software as a service (all Linux based), and the other mobile software (yes, I develop for both iPhone and Android).

It sounds ridiculous having to explain my credentials, but without it...I'd simply be called an idiot for choosing an iPhone. If you like to customize your home screen and play with widgets, then Android will suit you fine. Otherwise, I'd strongly suggest the iPhone. If you want to get hard core, you can always jailbreak it...run a database server, webserver, and anything else you'd like.

Really dude? First and foremost there was absolutely NO reason to show off your credentials when you speak about both phones from a subjective standpoint.

Android has been getting exponentially better with every OS update and hasn't given me any real gripes since my original Droid.

The iPhone 5 was competitive with the S3 (And that's being generous in a lot of senses); compared to the S4, HTC One and any other flagship that comes out prior to the iPhone 5S (which they better do some serious work to before they lose even more of their customer base) the iPhone is JUST for apple loyalists. Android does everything an iPhone does (and in a lot of cases better) and a lot that it doesn't, couple this with true HD and the ability to customize your phones/not have to deal with iTunes and your golden.



I don't hate iPhones, iPhone users or apple purists, I just don't see the point in owning an iPhone. To me it's inferior and too small for what I want in a phone *key word being, TO ME*

[marky]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I wonder if you lose all the special samsung software features in the stock version.

Yup all gone.. That floating sensor touch will be gone .. Kind of sucks that built in hardware will not be put to use..

[YukiHachiRoku]

I just picked up a regular iphone 4, 16gb used for $200, I seem to be happy with it.

[STV3]

Originally Posted by marky

Yeah I here you..I was was watching the live event when they showed it running stock android everyone was clapping.. Then when they announced the price 600$ for a 16GB version everyone was quiet and the room went silent haha.. Soon as that happen the guy moved on quick about another topic..

Not worth 600$+ ... I'm pretty sure they will have a ROM ported to GS3 / GS4 ... Already running 4.2 on my GS3

Yeah the only real upgrade over my Nexus 4 is the 1080p screen as opposed to my 720p screen and the memory, that's if they keep the sd card slot on the google version.

Yeah im sure Cyanogen will have on out soon