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mad_sb · 05-21-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20

... Turbos are a little different situation because of the compressor wheel speeds if injecting pre-turbo. The atomized water droplets will literally chip away at the leading edge of the impeller vanes from pure speed almost like a sand blaster. T...

^This... I forgot about the speed difference :happy0180:

Carwhisperer · 05-21-2013, 05:36 PM

Thanks for the video's Robi. I love the sound of this blower. I don't care about #'s at all and that whine makes me want to get this over any aftermarket FI kit.

tom@kartboy · 05-21-2013, 07:57 PM

Interesting read on screw type blowers from Kenne Bell.
http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Commo...romcatalog.pdf

Most thing i find interesting is the charge temps at the lower PSI AKA this kit.
What do you think @robispec?

Tom

kioton32 · 05-21-2013, 08:57 PM

Well Robi, as soon as you say the kits are available to purchase I am going to buy an intercooled One and order next day shipping... I've been waiting and won't wait longer then I need to...

robispec · 05-21-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996

Agreed and the simplicity is what keeps this kit very interesting to me. I'm just thinking of ways to increase power as I'm sure the numbers aren't going to be game changing.

Physics not snakeoil and implication..drivability with the tq EVERYWHERE is the game changer. Lol.

Carwhisperer · 05-21-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by robispec

Physics not snakeoil and implication..drivability with the tq EVERYWHERE is the game changer. Lol.

Yeah I bet roughly 200ft/lb of instant torque on this car can make it huge unique game changer.

Mars2 · 05-21-2013, 10:57 PM

On the VW R32 platform we see some gains with WMI injection and E85 on Vortech supercharged car but using 100% water injection no need of methanol blend as it already has E85.
The result was less detonation at top end of the RPM ( max boost also because centri charger) so some more timing space their.
Only water make it cheap and less corrosive.

Sonolin · 05-21-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by diss7

So... is this @robispec dyno, with e85?

I thought this was the old pull from last year...?

220whp is just... very very unimpressive with an e85 tune + pulley. I just don't see how that's competitive

Opposed · 05-21-2013, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonolin

So... is this @robispec dyno, with e85?

I thought this was the old pull from last year...?

220whp is just... very very unimpressive with an e85 tune + pulley. I just don't see how that's competitive

No. This was a dyno in Australia I think. This is the intercooled kit, but not on E85. Its on 98 RON pump gas if im not mistaken.

alex48 · 05-21-2013, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonolin

So... is this @robispec dyno, with e85?

I thought this was the old pull from last year...?

220whp is just... very very unimpressive with an e85 tune + pulley. I just don't see how that's competitive

This is Bullets car (Australian) on 98 octane fuel from 2 weeks ago, intercooled version.

Mars2 · 05-21-2013, 11:45 PM

Please read! pages before

Even on that dyno it says Bullet. Bullet is in australia so robispec would have to travel at light speed. maybe he can now with the sprintex

sw20kosh · 05-22-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alex48

This is Bullets car (Australian) on 98 octane fuel from 2 weeks ago, intercooled version.

98Ron is not 98 octane. It is more like 94 octane.

Sonolin · 05-22-2013, 12:14 AM

OK thanks guys! I was confused, because somebody said it was on @robispec build...

That makes a lot more sense

sw20kosh · 05-22-2013, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonolin

OK thanks guys! I was confused, because somebody said it was on @robispec build...

That makes a lot more sense

also keep in mind this is a dyno dynamics dyno.

Robi tuned on a dyno dynamics and also did some pulls on a dynojet and saw a 30 hp difference between the two dynos (dynojet reading higher).

05-21-2013, 08:57 PM	#340
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Carwhisperer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: A lot of supercars. Location: USA Posts: 495 Thanks: 237 Thanked 148 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the video's Robi. I love the sound of this blower. I don't care about #'s at all and that whine makes me want to get this over any aftermarket FI kit.

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tom@kartboy Join Date: May 2012 Drives: American Made Shift! Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 155 Thanks: 39 Thanked 205 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting read on screw type blowers from Kenne Bell. http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Commo...romcatalog.pdf Most thing i find interesting is the charge temps at the lower PSI AKA this kit. What do you think @robispec? Tom

05-21-2013, 10:57 PM	#343
Mars2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: GT86, AUDI RS2, VW T5 R32 Vortech Location: France Posts: 275 Thanks: 1 Thanked 72 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	On the VW R32 platform we see some gains with WMI injection and E85 on Vortech supercharged car but using 100% water injection no need of methanol blend as it already has E85. The result was less detonation at top end of the RPM ( max boost also because centri charger) so some more timing space their. Only water make it cheap and less corrosive.

05-21-2013, 11:45 PM	#347
Mars2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: GT86, AUDI RS2, VW T5 R32 Vortech Location: France Posts: 275 Thanks: 1 Thanked 72 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Please read! pages before Even on that dyno it says Bullet. Bullet is in australia so robispec would have to travel at light speed. maybe he can now with the sprintex

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Sonolin Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: SoCal Posts: 885 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 289 Times in 176 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK thanks guys! I was confused, because somebody said it was on @robispec build... That makes a lot more sense

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