Crawford Performance BRZ (450 HP) review by Matt Farah (Drive)

[86GT]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I couldn't help but think about all the cars you could buy for $60k, which is less than the total investment in this car.

Anything other than a Cayman in your mind? Considering only new coupes that handle as well as the twins.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by 86GT

Anything other than a Cayman in your mind? Considering only new "cars".

Cayman S, C6 Vette, used 996 TT...

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by Tim_Asphalt_FRS

Quirt Crawford said they overheated it and it was acting up because of that. Idk if he's telling the truth or not.


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My buddy has raced with them on some tracks. He says they always break down. He was impressed that they were tracking their car, though.

[86GT]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Cayman S, C6 Vette, used 996 TT...

Cayman S is 63 + Tax (no options). Is the C6 Vette comparable in handling to Cayman or the twins?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by zaptorque

Why is everyone so focused on the price? The fact that they were able to pump out this much power in a 2.0 4cyl/2800lb car is impressive as hell.

We are focused on price because unless you have never been to the Forced Induction forum, you would know there are plenty of people already making that much power on stock motors with E85.

[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by King Tut

We are focused on price because unless you have never been to the Forced Induction forum, you would know there are plenty of people already making that much power on stock motors with E85.

This is on pump fuel

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by kkakonn

http://drive.jalopnik.com/heres-what...baru-504748463

Matt Farah mentions it in the comments section:

"They are coming out with a consumer-grade Turbo setup next month, and will release pricing then. This car is currently on ebay with a starting bid at $60k, and Quirt told me that they plan to get 'a little bit less out of it than they have into it.' Granted, this was the first one, so it's probably a lot, but I wouldn't be surprised if $15k got you this exact setup once it's available for sale."

When I first looked I couldn't find it but then found it under completed listings, nobody bought it and it apparently ran for only a couple of days. Crawford has only 1 rating too.

2013 BRZ , Limited Edition $30,000 (Limited Edition? typo perhaps)
Falcon Tires $1,000 (Falken, clearly a secretary typed this)
Work Wheels $1,800
Work aluminum lug nuts $120
Brembo six pot Front Brakes $3,795
Brembo four pot Rear Brakes $3,395
Tein Suspension $2,300
Motor build $6,000
Motul fluids throughout $200
Crawford spec Carbon clutch $1,300
Crawford spec Turbo kit $5,000
Crawford Intercooler Kit $1,745
Crawford 3" Exhaust $1,550
Tuning/fuel system upgrades $2,250
Coolant upgrades $750
Upgraded Axels/CV Joints $1000
Carbon one piece driveshaft $1000
Crawford spec AOS $325
Window tint $300
Total amount invested $63,830

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by zaptorque

This is on pump fuel

Yeah on a built low compression motor. They also already blew one motor. I could throw low compression pistons and rods in mine and make that kind of power as well.

[killerkid08]

Originally Posted by kilrb

Agreed. Having that kind of power with relatively narrow tires and the low gearing these cars have is crazy for anything other than just a hard, straight-line pull. And that's kind of the exact opposite of why 95% of us bought our FR-S/BRZ. It's neat, but I think it would actually reduce the fun factor. I agree that 250-300whp would be awesome for this car, and would be plenty of power without impacting the fun factor...

you sir are unfortunately dead wrong. wider tires, a trained foot, and deft hands make this car into a guided missle. Yeah there is wheel spin, and tail happy antics, but doesn't this occur on a porsche 911 turbo, chevrolet corvette, and even the brz/fr-s from the factory ?

The power adds to what the car is capable of. It's not like you are on the juice and suddenly the car is just uncontrollable.

[dabocx]

I wonder what the consumer kit will cost, according to that ebay quote the turbo kit adds up to almost 10k with the turbo/intercooler/tune/fuel. Hopefully the street version is more realistic

[kilrb]

Originally Posted by killerkid08

you sir are unfortunately dead wrong. wider tires, a trained foot, and deft hands make this car into a guided missle. Yeah there is wheel spin, and tail happy antics, but doesn't this occur on a porsche 911 turbo, chevrolet corvette, and even the brz/fr-s from the factory ?

The power adds to what the car is capable of. It's not like you are on the juice and suddenly the car is just uncontrollable.

So, the torque curve isn't really peaky? I guess I assumed it would look like a 600hp Supra torque curve, where the car jumps 100ft lbs in like 500rpm... I always imagined that would be hard to drive.

[killerkid08]

Originally Posted by kilrb

So, the torque curve isn't really peaky? I guess I assumed it would look like a 600hp Supra torque curve, where the car jumps 100ft lbs in like 500rpm... I always imagined that would be hard to drive.

hard to drive ?

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as for the torque curve, its smooth, yet deliberate and to the point. you said go, and we're F---ing GONE !

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

When I first looked I couldn't find it but then found it under completed listings, nobody bought it and it apparently ran for only a couple of days. Crawford has only 1 rating too.

2013 BRZ , Limited Edition $30,000 (Limited Edition? typo perhaps)
Falcon Tires $1,000 (Falken, clearly a secretary typed this)
Work Wheels $1,800
Work aluminum lug nuts $120
Brembo six pot Front Brakes $3,795
Brembo four pot Rear Brakes $3,395
Tein Suspension $2,300
Motor build $6,000
Motul fluids throughout $200
Crawford spec Carbon clutch $1,300
Crawford spec Turbo kit $5,000
Crawford Intercooler Kit $1,745
Crawford 3" Exhaust $1,550
Tuning/fuel system upgrades $2,250
Coolant upgrades $750
Upgraded Axels/CV Joints $1000
Carbon one piece driveshaft $1000
Crawford spec AOS $325
Window tint $300
Total amount invested $63,830

Is that included Labor ? Oh ghost....I would spend that 63k + tax on a C7 corvette.

After all, Simply FRS is an FRS and Corvette is a Corvette on the street. Is it not ?

Now Crawford, if you can, and if you please. Talk to either Scion or Subaru to allow you to Hand assembly these car for a Limited Run similar to the

Evolution X 311RS. These car are fully Manufacturing warranted, and will only be 11 units Built.

If Crawford can pull this off for around 40k. I am IN!!!!!

Isn't FRS Sell these car as an Empty SHELLS as well in JAPAN ?

If so, why don't we

- Purchase a Shell with Transmission and Drive Shaft, just no Engine
- Put in STI Engine
- Put in the Turbo

Call it a Day ? Comon!!!

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Is that included Labor ? Oh ghost....I would spend that 63k + tax on a C7 corvette.

After all, Simply FRS is an FRS and Corvette is a Corvette on the street. Is it not ?

Now Crawford, if you can, and if you please. Talk to either Scion or Subaru to allow you to Hand assembly these car for a Limited Run similar to the

Evolution X 311RS. These car are fully Manufacturing warranted, and will only be 11 units Built.

If Crawford can pull this off for around 40k. I am IN!!!!!

Isn't FRS Sell these car as an Empty SHELLS as well in JAPAN ?

If so, why don't we

- Purchase a Shell with Transmission and Drive Shaft, just no Engine
- Put in STI Engine
- Put in the Turbo

Call it a Day ? Comon!!!

I assume it includes labor.